Beijing Desheng Hotel

No.14 Middle Road, North Loop 3, Xicheng District, Beijing, Beijing Region, 100011, China
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Transmongolia tickets in Beijing

by Louise89

Hi I'm going to travel from Beijing to Ulaanbator and I wonder if it is easy to buy tickets when you are I Beijing. I have read that it is cheaper to buy there than through a western travel agency. I would like to know how much it costs because the only prices I have seen is through agencies. Because the date when I'm going to travel is not set (can vary between March and April,2009)I would prefer to buy it in Beijing. I also wonder if it's easy to get seats on these trains or if they are very popular and you have to book them in time if so how much earlier than the departure date. I appreciate all answers

Re: Transmongolia tickets in Beijing

by GyuriFT

The direct train has no seats, only beds. There are 2-3 direct trains/week, one Mongolian and one or two Chinese depending on the season. Till recent, the trains did cost the same - you can look at my home page regarding the European, Asian and American train tickets, what you asking about is an MPT ticket, it's there, with full price discussion.

Now, in the middle of this year Mongolian rail said to raise it's part of the multiplier by 70%, Chinese did not raise it for a while. I cannot verify it, but if that is the case, Chinese and Mongolian trains won't have the same price anymore.

You can use domestic tickets till Erlian, cross the border and continue on-ward in Mongolian domestic train, but it can be more circumstantial.

What you heard is perfectly true, even Chinese agencies do use substantial "service fee" and Western ones even more. The legit service fee should be (see the sample on my home page!) in max. 1-2 Rbl CCCP range, that is (since Rbl CCCP is defunct) ca. 5 Swiss Franc, no more. This is what CITS/China Rail/etc. use. The trains can be popular, of course. There is a way to officially reserve MPT tickets from the West and I did see it done, but it's apparently a well-kept secret. I am trying to research it.

Re: Transmongolia tickets in Beijing

by GyuriFT


Now you got introduced to the Chinese Ticket Blackmarket and the world of tourist rip-offs.

Please read my little essay about MPT tickets again. MPT tickets are based on SWISS FRANC currency. The numbers are never even in CHF, save in RMB or USD.

In our sample - please look again at my home page - the through fare is 57.41 CHF, the bed reservation is 26.78 CHF, the total is 84.19 CHF. This is in "2/4" class. Would be great if "hhppaixhl" will specify, what class is the ticket and what exactly his handling fee is otherwise I would not accept any offer like that.

Travel Tips for Beijing

Beijing Asian Games

by SLLiew

My first trip to China was during the Asian Games in 1990. Beijing and all the major cities in China were decorated with flowers, banners and events like lantern show and fireworks to mark this important sporting event and coming of age of China.

Cannot wait to Beijing for the 2008 Olympic Games. It will be a busy and fantastic time to in Beijing and China. Why not plan your trip now? I am.

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Mass exercises

by sifrim

It's rather common place to see in the morning people exercising in parks or even on the street.
From what I saw these days, chinese people love the physical activity, beeing outside.
Whether is tai chi, other kind of sports that I don't know the name or just dancing, you can see them all over the place. Just go to a park early in the morning.
I took the picture on Sunday morning in the Temple of Heaven park.

Crane-shaped incense burner

by aramat

This incense burner stands in Beihai Park, but similar ones are found in the Forbidden City as well (and probably in other historical places, too). The crane symbolised happiness and longevity in ancient China.

Silk Street Market

by Unknownsu about Silk Market

For some retail therapy, try the Silk Street Market (Xiushui) to get the best bargains in Beijing. You can buy all of the knock-offs and some original products as well. Set yourself to haggle mode and bargain hard.

All you need to know about Taxi's in Beijing

by kangningchang

beijing taxi's are cheap (compared to the rest of the world) and you will usually have no trouble hailing one except during rush hr and if it's raining.

just make sure you're not standing around a bus stop or near a police car, they'll usually hesitate to pull over as fines in beijing are very high on the cab drivers.

beijing taxi's start at 10 RMB for the first 3 km (about 2 miles) then it is 2 RMB/km

after the 15th km they will charge an extra 50% for the empty return trip and also an extra 20% btw 23:00-06:00

a trip from the airport to the city would be btw 60-120 depending on where you're going (beijing is BIG!) and you also need to pay for toll fees, so don't be surprised if you're final bill is higher than on the meter.

if you feel you have been ripped off, ask for the receipt and tell them you have been overcharged, mark down their license plate, the fine is pretty heavy if they overcharge you on purpose, but keep in mind, these poor drives are being exploited by the taxi companies and they usually need to work around 6 hrs everyday just to pay for renting the cab. So don't take advantage of them on purpose. if your taxi driver has been nice/helpful, tipping (even the change eg. giving 20 for a 19 rmb ride, "bu 2 yong 4 zhao 3 le 1" keep the change, makes their day!)is welcome and they appreciate it very much!

it is also a good idea to keep your receipts anyway, in case you forget something on the cab you can call the company and tell them the numbers on the receipt, they can call the cab driver and if you actually left it on the cab (not pick pocketed) you can usually get it back.

DO NOT TAKE CABS THAT DO NOT HAVE A METER! esp at night and if you are alone, they usually over charge you, and there have been incidents of women traveling alone getting hurt or robbed!


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