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No.51 Shangyou Street, Daoli District, Harbin, Heilongjiang, 150018, China
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Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang and Dandong 2 weeks travel January 10 - 25, 2007
by ftho
BEIJING, HARBIN, SHENYANG.
Travelling alone. Seeking travel companion. Would appreciate VT members who are kind enough and can spare a time to meet for meals, tea/beer.
Fellow travellers who are keen for companionship can be for one or all of the cities mentioned.
Will land in BEIJING on January 10, 2007 heading straight to HARBIN for 5 days by Train, onwards to SHENYANG for a brief stay (perhaps 2 days), then to DANDONG - both cities in Liaoning Province. Back to BEIJING around January 19/20 visiting the best places BEIJING has to offer.
I am a Male, Malaysian Chinese, speak, read and write English. Also speak fluent Mandarin (Putonghua - the language of communication in China).
Thank you.
RE: Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang and Dandong 2 weeks travel January 10 - 25, 2007
by ellyse
Sorry, will only be in Beijing after you. Been to the rest already.
RE: RE: Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang and Dandong 2 weeks travel January 10 - 25, 2007
by ftho
Ellyse, the girl who has left foot prints in a lot of places in China, Thank you for your speedy reply.
If I may can I seek your advice on the following:
1.The best way to book train ticket from Beijing to Harbin?
2.What is the rate for 3 star Hotel like in Harbin, Shenyang.
3.Are Hotels in Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang have heater in the room.
4.Hotels where you have stayed previously, which you considered suitable and nice, which are the ones? Can you be of help in getting a better rates?
Your advice and help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
P.S. Messages sent through here appear jumpy. I have experienced messages sent out are recorded/repeated twice. I hope this one would not.
RE: RE: Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang and Dandong 2 weeks travel January 10 - 25, 2007
by ellyse
1) Assuming you won't be in time to buy your own train ticket, email Richard Tian (richards@public3.bta.net.cn) and see what he can do to help. He's a reliable ticket agent but you'll still need to pay commission anyway. If you are willing to risk it then wait till you get here to buy your own ticket, if you don't get a sleeper you'll at least have a seat anyway.
2) Harbin would be a lot more expensive than Shenyang. It really does pay to stay somewhere close to Zhaolin Park and Zhongyang Dajie in Harbin otherwise you'll have to travel to and fro everyday, not fun considering the cold.
3) Yes, definitely.
4) Well, I think most of the places I've been staying in recently might be a bit too expensive for you. Are you still on the budget of <200 RMB for accommodation? Drop me a VTMail if you want me to help with the bookings.
RE: RE: Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang and Dandong 2 weeks travel January 10 - 25, 2007
by ftho
Thank you for the reply and the answers given.
Yes I need help to get an advance booking for my train ticket to Harbin just to make sure I get a soft sleeper. I will email Richard to get help. While on this subject can you give me an indication as to how much he is charging for the commission and how should I remit the money to him as well as how will I obtain my ticket.
Ellyse, I will need your expertise in getting a suitable accommodation in Harbin, Shenyang. Yes, I will email you after I get the booking of the Train ticket to Harbin settled. I need to be certain of the day I will arrive in Harbin.
Thank you.
RE: RE: Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang and Dandong 2 weeks travel January 10 - 25, 2007
by ellyse
Sorry, don't know how much he's charging for commission as I've not had the chance to use his services before. However, his name is well-recognised on Lonely Planet's ThornTree forum (North-East Asia branch), especially with regards to obtaining tickets for the TransSiberian train, as far as I know he should be reliable.
RE: RE: Beijing, Harbin, Shenyang and Dandong 2 weeks travel January 10 - 25, 2007
by ftho
Thank you.
I am feeling comfortable with this information.
Travel Tips for Harbin
Where do they get the ice?
by mke1963
So how exacty do they get the huge of blocks of ice to make the sculptures that are found all around the city? The river obviously, but also from the other lakes and streams in the cities many parks.
They use a wheeled machine with a circular wood saw attached to a small two-stroke engine. However, if you think about it, it's not al quite as simple as you might think. It's easy enough to cut downwards, but not across. Local knowledge, handed down by generations of ice-cutters tells them when the ice is just thick enough so that it is the right 'height'. A micture of machinery and what might be called indigenous knowledge.
Heilongjiang Provincial Museum - Part 1
by mke1963
The Heilongjiang Provincial Museum has its ups and downs. Its not as bad as most of the guidebooks say, but a few hours makeover would turn this into a very impressive place. As it is, it suffers from 'sullen old women' syndrome: large numbers of ignorant, unpleasant and unfriendly staff who won't even give you the time of day.
The cloakroom doesn't accept coats. You have to swelter it out as you go around. Fortunately they have made as much of the museum as boring as possible so that you don't have to swelter for too long. It is indicative of many of China's tourist problems that most cultural heritage facilities have no idea how much money they could make or how much more interesting they could be if they could just get off their backsides, stop drinking out of jamjars for a while and start to consider the possibilities. Museums in China are as close as you get now to experiencing old-style Communism.
The Heilongjiang Museum is in a beautiful art-deco building that was originally a department store. However, they have put huge advertising hoardings over the upper floors, to cut off any possible aesthetic pleasure that one might derive from looking at the place from the outside. Indeed, it is actually easy to miss the museum entrance because of all the shops that use the ground floor (it is up the steps at the stone lions).
The aquarium is worth visiting on its own (separately reviewed) although it does end with a rather pathetic seal display. Ah, the ability of China to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
The upper floor has two huge display areas, with virtually nothing in any foreign language, other than a few of the obligatory 'hyperbole display panels' found in every museum, telling us how fantastic the place is. The series of the rooms on the left is the historical section. The labelling in Chinese is pretty useless.
Harbin is a old city! Lots if history!!
by mrtrainer
You need a open mind going around China. Lots of old stuff. This is the real people. They like it there. Harbin has old and new areas. I stayed around the Shangrila Hotel and the Large river area. I went up to QuiQiar and down Shenyang. People up north are like people in Alaska!!
The Children's Park
by mke1963
The Children's Park in Harbin is almost as old as Harbin itself, having been developed as a garden area for the China Eastern Railway in 1925, before being incorporated in the Nangang Park in 1953 after the Communists won the city.
However, it was on the 1st June 1956 that the park railway was opened, operated ever since by the city's children. The trains rumble around the park's 17 hectares during the summer months along a 2km long narrow-gauge track. The whole thing is directed, operated and manned by children from the city's primary and middle schools.
In the depths of winter, the trains do not operate, but the park remains a focal point for local people. A river which forms the southern edge of the park ices over, and ramps are built for skiers and a smaller slope is used to slide down on inflated inner-tubes.
Even with thick snow on the ground and long icicles everywhere, with the wind whipping through the bare branches, Harbin people, young and old, crowd the park to walk, chat, exercise and have fun. There is simply nowhere better to see the real Harbin (or indeed, the real China) than in the park.
Wonderful world of ICE
by muileng
"Harbin Ice "Garden""
Harbin is known for its annual Ice Festival .. and it's truly awesome.
Huge chunks of ice made into life-size buildings and monuments, colourfully lighted up.
But be warned that the temperature at night reaches -25 degrees.
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