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How to order destinations in N. Italy, (5 week trip over X-mas).

by song99

How to order destinations in N. Italy, (5 week trip over X-mas).

I have 5 weeks to explore Northern Italy, arriving in Bergamo, and visiting different parts of the North specifically including:

1) Trentino/Bolzano (Dolomites)
2) Genoa/Cinque Terre
3) Como/Maggiore Lakes

My question is how to order the trip? Which region first?

I'm arriving in the middle of December at Bergamo, and leaving in the middle of January (again from Bergamo).

I guess I will have to go to Milan, at some point but it's really the least important stop for me (except for maybe the Duomo cathedral there). I can't hitchhike because it's too cold, so I'm dependant on Italy's discount bus, and rail tickets (if they even exist)? Some rail networks, like Norway, and other bus companies, like a few in London, offer really cheap discount e-tickets if purchased well in advance, sometimes only 1 euro, plus tax. Other countries are really good for rideshare, or lifeshare, (NOT carpooling), where young people share the cost of gas/driving, and more or less ride for free. Does Italy factor in on any of these possibilities?

Please let me know in which order to visit these provinces/regions, and where to spend Christmas, and New Years. Please note I really like landscapes, and photography but prefer to stay away from groups of tourists, Italian or otherwise especially when they're skiing. I don't like ski lifts either, I prefer quiet valleys, and kind, hospitable townspeople, with delicious local foods.


Re: How to order destinations in N. Italy, (5 week trip over X-mas).

by Venelin


there are little ways to save money from transportation in Italy, but on the other hand transportation is cheap compared to Western Europe. Buses are mainly local, with the exception of some buses that go from the North to Sicily and they traverse the area around Florence, Bologna, etc. so they are not exactly on your way. The company is called Sena Bus:
You can browse for local transportation by googling "X (place name) Y (place name) bus", it often works. A comprehensive list of bus companies with links to their websites is:
Try to search intuitively: when sizable places are less than 50km apart and there is no direct train, you can expect to find a frequent bus (especially likely within the same region). The companies are listed under the province in which they base their operations. Normally buying the ticket from the driver costs some cents more than buying it at a counter.
Reservation of train tickets is 5% cheaper when done online (only for the expensive trains). The Amica fare is 20% discounted and you have to purchase it in advance for a particular departure time. As far as I know return discounts do not exist.
You can also use an Interrail Pass for Italy, which might be a bargain if you use enough IC (not IC Plus, though) and Espresso Notte (cheap night trains). They do not require reservation and thus, no supplements are required, either. If you stick to either regional trains and buses in the mountains or to Eurostar Italia, an Interrail pass is of no use for you. Still, do your calculations.
I haven't heard of any ride-sharing and the like. This probably means that even if there are some, they are not very common and useful.

Hope that helps,

Re: How to order destinations in N. Italy, (5 week trip over X-mas).

by suvanki

Hi! As you're arriving/departing from Bergamo, I'd advise taking some time to explore this town, particularly the upper old town. Bergamo is 10-15 mins by bus from the airport(stopping at the train station). It often gets missed by travelers racing to Milan or The Lakes.
I was there in October, and thoroughly enjoyed my short stay there. Would like to go back there one day soon.

I hope you find the answers to your query. Have A Great trip!
Best Wishes,

Re: How to order destinations in N. Italy, (5 week trip over X-mas).

by Redang

Don't forget lake Como and Padova

Re: How to order destinations in N. Italy, (5 week trip over X-mas).

by song99

Hi, I know WHERE to go, I just can't decide which direction to go after Bergamo, west to the Lake district, and then Liguria via Milan, or east, to Trentino/Bolzano/Alps, and then down to Cinque Terre, and back to Bergamo via Genoa, and Milan.

Travel Tips for Verona

walking on the old town. To...

by Firenza

walking on the old town. To see the famous house of Juliett and her balcony. There always many tourists who's making photo or just looking. There is a shop with souvenirs, which you must absolutely buy. My fondest memory of Verona it is a beautiful view on the river. ( I don't remember the name of this river). Architecture is wonderful.

Four Saints- detail 2

by Azhut

As I wrote in my 4 saints tip, this column is surmounted by an aedicule that hosts 4 saints watching the street. I saw many Italian cities but to tell you the truth, this is the first time that I found so many column with aedicules like these. As I am a curious girl I promise to discover the sense of this tradition!

Gran Guardia Palace

by iandsmith

Though I was attracted to it, it is fair to suggest that, for most people coming to Verona, the arena is one of the big pulling items on the agenda.
The neglected palace, on the other side of Piazza Bra, with its powerful Corinthian columns, seems to exude a strong dominant air in keeping with its duty as a military headquarters.

Wonderful Arena

by Azhut

The Roman amphitheatre Arena is the most renowned veronese monument. Today the Arena is set in the historical centre just at the end of Piazza Brà. Once upon a time, when the Romans built it up, the monument was located at the margins of the urban area, outside the circle of the walls. Through time it became the very symbol of the town The Arena has always served the special purpose of spectacular events (gladiators fightings during Romans age). Today the Arena hosts concerts and open-air works.

Open hours: 9.30-18.00
Holidays: 13.30-17.00
Closed: monda
Entrance: 1,50 euros

Piazza Brà

Berto Barbarani

by croisbeauty

Berto Barbarani, 1872 - 1945, was a great Veronese poet,known for his poems writen in specific Veronese dialect. The monument to great poet, work of Novello Finotti, stands on Piazza delle Erbe.
He was "el poeta che rapresentava e rapresenta ancora la lengua dialetale Veronese". To those of you who don't know it, the main attraction of Verona, Arena is called "La rena" in Veronese dialect.


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