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From Madrid to Bordeaux... car? train? plane?

by emilel

Hi! We're a family of 4 (2 adults, 2 under 12) and we'll be arriving in Madrid, and trying to get to Bordeaux this summer. I'm hesitating between going with Renfe (which is long, and not that cheap) and renting a car (not cheap either because of the one-way drop fee)... Yet another option is to fly to Toulouse with easy jet (that's somewhat cheap) then take a train from toulouse to bordeaux...

Two questions:
- Are there good reductions for kids on Renfe/sncf all the way to bordeaux? I've seen 40% off for under 12 on renfe, but I'm wondering if this will be valid between irun and bordeaux as this will no longer be the spanish train network.
- Do you guys know of any low-cost car rental places that would accept one-way trips?

Thanks for any info! :)

Re: From Madrid to Bordeaux... car? train? plane?

by Roadquill

An inexpensive alternative may be to bus from Madrid to San Sebastian. There is regular bus service from San Sebastian to Biarritz which I am sure you can easily get up to Bordeaux. I don't think it would take that much longer. It is 300 miles to Pamplona and then another bus ride to San Sebastian which takes about 45 minutes. The high speed train takes about 3 hours to Pamplona. There are also trains to Bilbao but for some reason those seem to take a lot longer. Maybe a more circuituous route? Never had any luck on low cost car rentals in Europe. Especially when you need to add room for luggage. Karl

Re: From Madrid to Bordeaux... car? train? plane?

by emilel

Thanks for the info! I didn't think of taking the bus, but you're right, that's an option. The train takes about 6 hours from Madrid to Irun, I"m guessing taking busses would be much slower, but potentially more fun too! :)

Re: From Madrid to Bordeaux... car? train? plane?

by K_V_B

I'd take the train, or try to get a low cost airfare somewhere.
- Rental car is going to be expensive, as the rental car will charge you for the cost of getting someone to drive your car back to Spain.
- Bus is not going to be fun, but then how someone can consider bus to be _more fun_ then a train is beyond me.
- Important: Northbound you change at Hendaye, not Irun. Don't get of to early.
- The French railways give reductions to children too. (Half price, if I'm not mistaken).
- A quick visit to the SNCF site gives me a rough estimate of a bout 70,- for an adult, and 40,- for a child, bought at the station.

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Travel Tips for Madrid

I see red!

by stopatnothin

Ole! One of my fondest memories in Madrid was visiting a bullfighting ring . Regardless of one's personal opinion of an encounter between matador and bull , attendance at the bullring is an emotional experience ( emotional for the bull no doubt ) . Bullfighting is an event of ancient origin in which the matador enters the bullring with an animal trained to kill . In Spain the ritual has 3 main acts . First the picadors , on horses , lance the bull to weaken its neck muscles . Then the banderilleros , on foot , place a pair of darts in the bull . Finally the matador walks alone into the bullring carrying a sword and a muleta , a small red cloth draped over a stick . Shaking the muleta to attract the color-blind bull's attention , the matador begins the duel . Each encounter with a bull takes approximately 20 minutes . Bullfighting as I have learned is more a contest between the matador and his own courage than with the bull itself . If the matador had been especially courageous , he is awarded the ears and tail of the bull ( what a souvenir for the kids huh ) . In my opinion ( which I am sure you have all been waiting for ) is that no matter what the culture of this activity I believe this killing is a sport and I do not think I would sit through one . If you are someone who is interested in this the fights are generally held on Sundays from Easter through October .

Kiss kiss

by AmerIndianPrincess

The kiss on cheeks to greet you which is very sweet....even if you are first introduced to someone that is going to be around awhile. They are very close people and hold hands alot, doesn't matter if it's two women or two men, no it does not mean they are gay...that's just their culture.

Museum of the Americas

by barryg23

The Museum of the Americas sounded like an interesting place to visit, especially as we hope to travel to South America in 2007. It's one of Madrid's lesser known museums, located in the north-west of the city. There are many interesting displays of objects from South America dating from Spain's conquest of much of the continent.

Everything you could ever want/ need, and more...

by Lizchiq about Corte Ingles

These huge shops grace practically every metro stop corner in Madrid. These department stores range from 6-13 stories (!) and have an immense selection, from computers/ electronics to a huge pharmacy selection to couture designers and in some, food/ grocery selections. If you are staying in Madrid for a good length of time, do a lot of shopping here, and then you can get the tax off when you leave. Make sure to save your receipts though!


by mesoblonda about El Valladolid Majaderitos

After a fun night out, don't forget to eat some churros and cafe con leche or hot chocolate (also known as a liquid chocolate bar to some...)

The price is so reasonable at $2.20 Euro, you can't refuse! And once you bite in to a churro that has been dipped into your "liquid chocolate bar", you're hooked and will return! Casual.


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