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W Dallas Victory perfect!
I have always loved the W, so I was looking forward to trying out the new W Victory in downtown Dallas. It was awesome in so many ways! We were there for a week for business and only a day into our stay, they were calling us by name. We had a City View room. The bed was very, very comfy. The bathroom was part of the room with a big curtain for privacy during a shower. But you couldn't leave the room if you were sharing with someone you didn't want to see shower! The toilet had its own room - I wish all hotels had this! The Bliss toiletries were great. I LOVED the big comfy robe. My husband loved the huge flat screen TV - probably 50 inches. We had drinks in the living room one night inside and talked to the bartenders. Another night we went outside and it was nice. The Ghost Bar was the best though. We didn't go for late night - we went for happy hour. There was no cover and they constantly came around with amazing food - mini burgers, wings, etc. The drinks were not cheap, but they were strong and worth it. The restaurant was a little disappointing - I probably wouldn't go back to it again. But we were tired of finding places around town. The best perk (of course you pay for it with the $22 parking fee) is the two Voss water bottles in the car every time we picked it up. We did a lot of driving during the day and this was a great perk. I plan on staying here again - at least untl the Mandarin Oriental opens next door - then I will have to pick the best one.
For hipsters, but no one else
My wife had been dying to try out the new W close to her work so I took advantage of its proximity to American Airlines Center to catch a Mavs game at the same time. Conclusion? Very cool atmosphere, but definitely not our scene. Have you ever seen the commercial (for Expedia?) where a guy is planning a vacation for his parents? They are booked into an ultra-modern and hip hotel, and have no idea how to operate the controls in their room or sit in the oddly shaped chairs. Well, we felt like we were living that commercial. It isn't that we are that old (30s), but we sure felt it.
The entrance and circular driveway seemed strangely small and compact for such a hotel, and resulted in a long wait and traffic jam on a Saturday afternoon. The cramped foyer also featured a lengthy wait as well. Service was not overly warm, but adequate. The staff did seem kind of flustered because they were falling behind.
We were struck by the decor...as is true of all such "hip" hotels, function seemed to have been sacrificed for form. As we got off the elevator, we were greeted by a chaise lounger upholstered in cow hide (with all the cow hair intact...I think that couch used to be Bessie). We got a room on the 10th floor overlooking the front of the hotel (of the parking lot). It was okay. One of our keys wouldn't open the front door, but it was such a long wait downstairs that we just decided to forget about it. The room itself elicited a wow when we first entered. It was furnished in a spare, contemporary fashion with dark solid walls (naked of any art at all) and lots of chrome. What I found particularly interesting was the concept of putting the bathroom right at the entrance. Not near the entrance, mind you. You opened the front door right into the bathroom. The shower was an open shower sitting right next to the door. I was fascinated and wondered how well this design would work. The was...not very well. Trying to take a shower with no door would have been an interesting idea if you could have enough water to keep you warm. Unfortunately, with its "rain-shower" head and no water pressure, water barely drizzled out and left the user freezing their buns off. So with no bathroom door (but with a full-width curtain), a shower would result in a user that was freezing-cold, and a room that was moist and hot. Who comes up with these ideas??
There was a very nice 32-in flat-screen TV, and the bed was OK. But it wasn't as good as a "Heavenly Bed" from Westin, W's sister brand. The rest of the room was about on par with any other hotel in this price range, and certainly nothing special.
We checked out the rest of the hotel, and were actually wowed by some of the amenities...there is a very nice, albeit small infinity-edged pool on the 16th floor. Nice for 1 or 2 people to do laps. There were about 8 to 10 loungers, so the area was not designed for large groups. There was nobody outside the day we were there, however, because there was such gusting wind that the lounge cushions were flying all over and some guest was even knocked over. The gym was about average while the public spaces downstairs all seemed intended to function as some club. Later that night, we would find out that is exactly what they were for.
It seemed the whole space was intended to evoke the feel of a cool boutique hotel. However, at the same time, it felt very claustrophobic. At night, the entire hotel is tranformed into a club. It felt that there were bouncers everywhere (and there were), while there were ropes to control the crowds waiting to take revelers up to the Ghostbar. Second-rate hip-hop was blasting everywhere in the lobby (and is even piped to the hotel elevators). Hotel guests automatically have their names on the list (this felt pretty neat walking past the other poor saps waiting outside) for the privelege of paying a $15 cover, for males only. Non-guests have to pay a $20 cover (again only the guys). We waited about 20 min in our special line, then went up. It felt like deja vu as I felt like I was in any other "cool" nightclub. It was packed to the point of not being able to breathe, anonymous hip-hop music was blaring to eardrum-puncturing levels, and people seemed either to be trying to shuffle to one end of the bar or from the other end of the bar. Since there was no dance floor, some tried to dance in the middle of the room, but were constantly being jostled by the lemmings coming off the elevators. There was plenty of eye-candy as the waitresses had some nicely slutty outfits, but the majority of the room was filled with young Lindsey Lohan and Justin Timberlake-wannabes doing their best to look their best while feigning disinterest and ennui. Sorry kids, but NYC, South Beach and LA already did this scene 10 years ago. Well, after my wife and I finally made it to one end of the room, we braved it and headed back. In all, our quest to circumnavigate the Ghostbar took about 20 min...since our ears were bleeding by this time, we decided to head back to our room.
We thought we left the party, but unfortunately the party did not leave us. Aside from being able to still hear the music in our room, we were also blessed with a large group of inebriated youngsters on our floor, and were treated to impromptu renditions of ...well I just don't know. Suffice to say I would have enjoyed William Hung's song-stylings more.
In any case, to conclude...we wouldn't recommend this place to anyone who was around for the Bicentennial or even the Reagan years. I can certainly see the attraction of this place for college kids for the "cool" factor and the whole party atmosphere...we probably would have felt that way if we were 10 years younger. But now, we would much rather stay at a Westin or St. Regis. And for $300 a night, we could have.
Loved this hotel, very hip and trendy
I was excited coming to this hotel. I've read reviews about how it wasnt that well prepared and what not, but I ignored them. This is simply an amazing hotel! Check in was long though. The hotel lobby was very trendy, nothing like a 5 star hotel. Has more of the Vegas vibe to it. And the lobby is WOW especially at night because you feel like you are in a club with trance music playing everywhere. It gets crowded on a saturday night because you have people getting into Ghostbar.
My bf and I had booked a WOW suite for my birthday which is..cant even describe it. I was in awe because it was so nice. It came with 2 plasma Tv's, two bathrooms, love couches, a dining table, etc. I loved the terrace overlooking the American Airlines center and we had a living room area for our guests and a seperate bedroom with a king sized bed. I liked the bathrooms but too many mirrors. I ran into the mirror door many times. I didnt like the shower because the water didnt come out fast and it was slow. Looking at the city of Dallas at night is beautiful. I loved it. Overall, the staff were quite friendly, not as strict as I thought they would be and I Like them friendly and this was one of the best hotels i've stayed in!
i didnt get a chance to adventure around the hotel that much and i was pretty disappointed. I wanted to check out the pool, the wet bar, and even Ghostbar. I receieved points so maybe I can come back here and get the free room and see more this time!
One of my favorite Ws.
Business travel brought me to Dallas and I decided to stay true to Starwood even though the reviews of this hotel have been pretty dismal. I went in with low expectations, but have to say that I really thought it was one of the better Ws I have had a chance to stay at.
First, you have to know that you are going to stay at a W and not at the Four Seasons or the Ritz. Their deal is trendy modern hip. Compared to some Ws (like the really dark Times Square W) I found this one to be fun and open. I thought the room configuration was super cool. Probably not ideal for those travelling with anyone other than a spouse since the bathroom is not private, it is open to the bedroom and you can't walk in and out of the room without going through the bathroom area.
The beds are awesome, they have great flat screen TVs. The hotel restaurant, Craft, is out of this world!!! And really accomodating for a single business traveller. Valet parking was very quick, courteous and helpful in getting me driving directions to where I was trying to go. Check in and Check out were great.
I didn't take advantage of the club this trip, as there was a quite line and it didn't seem like having a hotel key made much difference (which is not that case in some of the other locations).
I would definitely stay here next time travel brings me back to Dallas.
Never again at this hotel
I had been so excited to stay at the W when I learned my work function would take me to Dallas. Upon arrival I immediately loved the modern, hip decor and thought my room was great.
That was until I was crawling around on the floors searching for electric outlets with which to plug in my hairdryer, cell charger, etc. Not fun. (And apparently I was not the only one- as another colleague told me she had to do the same.) Another problem in the rooms was the shower pressure -- the W has these rainfall shower heads, which in theory sound delightful; but the water pressure was terrible.
The highpoint of the W rooms for me: the Bliss products. They were definitely a plus, but was so disappointed in the rest of the below-standard amenities like the rough tissue and toilet paper... nothing like spending big on the plasma t.v.'s just to scrimp on scratchy tissue that hurts your nose...
Two final complaints: the elevators are so incredibly slow! And, the blackout that I endured while getting ready for the evening was very inconvenient. I know that it was not their fault that the power went out, but it will, of course, remain a tarnish on my trip as I scrambled to dress, do my hair and apply make-up all in the dark.
I did, however, like the views I had from my room and those from the balcony at the Ghostbar. The bar had a fun atmosphere, though the service was less than impressive.
All in all, I don't expect that I will return to the W when I'm in Dallas again. I have heard that W's in other cities provide better service, so may try one of those in the future, however.
Club Atmosphere 24-7
I stayed at the W in Dallas the end of October for a work function. Overall, the hotel was nice and clean but not really "comfortable."
As everyone else said, the hotel is very swanky & chic. I enjoy this for club but not for a hotel where you are conducitng business. While waiting for the elevator at 8am, I felt like I was waiting in line at a club at midnight - dark area with colored lights and pulsating music. Not really the mood you want to be put in before sitting in a conference all day!
The rooms were fine although many in our work group joked that we clearly weren't hip enough because we could not figure out how to do simple things like figure out how to open the closet door! As previously mentioned by others, outlets are scarce which is very surprising for a modern hotel. The water pressure is low as well.
Most people that work here are 25 or younger so if you are in to that, you are set! I will say that most were very nice. The location of the hotel is isolated - you could tell it is an old area of town that is being redeveloped but currently, there isn't much around because of that. We walked to a gas station store to buy some bottled water, etc. That was about it. However, if you are staying there and going to a Stars or Mavericks game, it is ideal - right across the street.
Overall, I would recommend the hotel if you like the club atmosphere-type hotel. For business purposes, I would not recommend it.
The Ghost Bar was nice - crowded but the "scene" was certainly there if you want it.
the hotel is nice looking.
My wife and I were ashamed of the service this hotel provides. No one ever says hello or how are things. dont even bother calling for help or complaining, no one cares.
They took 45 minutes on saturday night to get our car. Not only did we lose our reservation, we also came back at the wrong time, just when everyone was coming in for the bar and it took another 40 minutes to park again. it was the worst experience of our lives. the beds are extremly hard and the water pressure is real bad, there are many other great hotels in the area, that i would recomend. SPG should consider , new management at that hotel
Loved the Spa, hated the hotel
Dallas is definitely not the "LA of the South", no matter what other reviewers may have said. I've lived here for 5 years and trust me, Dallas is just another big suburban city in the mid-west that now has a fancy hotel to flaunt. Having said that, don't stay here. Here's why:
1) You HAVE to valet your car, and for those of you who might not realize how horribly inconvenient this is, I'll explain: every time you park your car you have to pay 5 dollars plus tip for the valet service. And once you get there, you'd better not need your car again until you're going somewhere important because the line to get your car back in the evenings is HORRENDOUS. I came just to use the spa once, and after my treatment waited no less than 20 minutes in a line full of drunks just to pay $5 to drive my car home. The couple behind me had to wait in the line too, and all they needed was to get something out of their car that they'd left when they checked in (the Valets can't tell you where your car is for some reason, so you won't be able to run to your car to get something by yourself).
2) The staff was nice enough to me (though not as nice as at the Crescent), but the other guests were just awful. Basically, the W is the type of place to stay if your self-esteem is based on the cost of your clothes. I am by no means "poor", but walking through that lobby in my casual wear I was looked at like a leper. The crowd at this hotel is basically the nouveu-riche set of Dallas.
3) The bar scene in Dallas is nothing too special. Ghost Bar stays true to that. While the scenery may be pretty neat, the crowd is the same as I described above. If you're a young woman like me, you will be dealing with a bunch of 50 year old men who think they can buy you, and a bunch of highly metrosexual young men who will try to impress you with their $300 t-shirts. For dance music I suggest Lizard Lounge (where Fatboy Slim and Paul Oakenfold go to play when they tour here), Club One, Zubar, Minc Lounge, among others, where the people are friendly, the drinks are cheap, and the music is much cooler. Don't go to Ghost Bar where you'll pay $12 a drink just to wait in line 30 minutes and be treated by the club staff like you're a "nobody".
Basically, the other reviewer was right, this place is very "see and be seen". However, if you are the type of person who couldn't give a flying explitive about being seen by whoever might see you at this hotel it's not worth it.
If you're looking for a real unique Dallas experience stay at ZaZa (the Dragonfly is great), the Adolphus downtown, or Crescent Court (the staff there is AMAZING and the rooms are fantastic, there are also some great restaurants there you will be talking about long after you leave). All those hotels are the same price or cheaper than the W, the people are nicer, and you get much more for what you pay.
They are also in better neighborhoods. You can actually walk to bars and clubs from the Crescent and ZaZa, whereas at the W, since the Victory Plaza isn't completed, you're going to have to drive or get cabs everywhere (especially because Dallas is a very dangerous city - DON'T walk from the W anywhere unless you know where you're going, ZaZa and Crescent are in the middle of everything, though, so it's pretty safe to walk from them).
Having said all that I will say that Bliss Spa is GREAT and you should definitely make time to go there no matter where you stay. The only drawback is that it's in the W and if you go after 5 you will have to deal with drunks wandering around and being loud (I swear the W hosts huge private parties every night, the elevators are usually pretty full of rediculous people!). Bliss is expensive, but worth every penny.
Overpriced with Sheraton Service
This hotel suffers from unfamiliar staff and a lack of general quality. Starwood leveraged the W name to make me willing to pay $379/night for what I thought would be an exceptional hotel. In fact this was a Sheraton level experience at best. They overbilled for the valet (charged 3 nights even though I stayed one). The breakfast was awesome, but a micromanaging manager followed my waiter around much like that of the Resto manager in the movie Office Space....
This hotel needs to up the service levels and add some more amentities to the room to make it worthy of the W name.
Slick Slick Slick
Wow, this must be the slickest joint I've ever stayed at (and I've stayed at some...) The only way to know you aren't in New York is the warm greeting and big smiles by the staff. Efficient as most W Hotels, this property, which is new (I think this past year), gets the award for mod design and comfort. I had a two room suite (upgraded by Platinum status) that was larger than my home (condo). Two flat screen TVs, 1.5 baths, lots of space. If you like the grays, you'll love this decor. Pretty muted. And wonderful.
Avoid checking in at night (when it's the club crowd) and during a game (Mavericks play next door). No decent eateries nearby, unless you like Hooters and other collegiate sports type places. That will change, based on the amount of construction in the vicinity.
Getting ready to take off...
Big Tex greets everyone that comes!
That's just the Live Racing facilities...
Close up of the Facade--Look at the Floral Design
Dallas Vs Atlanta
I just turned 37....no kids....single....
I'm an electrical design engineer at my full-time day job. I'm also an aerospace engineering naval officer for the naval reserve. I'm apart of many professional societies etc etc. (NSBE, NNOA, IEEE, Eta Kappa Nu, Phi Beta Tu, ROA to name a few)
Now that you have a little background on myself....
I live in a beautiful city (San Diego for 17 years)
I'm thinking about starting a family.....I'm not really in any major rush to be a statistic.....However....I would like to relocate and not just for that reason......I'm kinda sick of living in Cali....for a few reasons....Hence, it's time for change.
I was looking at 3 cities to move and start a new life
1st pick ( Atlanta)....been there 3 times to look at homes, the infrastructure of the city and the people.
2nd ( Dallas) ....I have a cousin there and in Ft Worth....I use to live in Ft Worth when I was a 7 yo....was gone for 22 years....and been back there twice each year for the last 4 years and was not impressed with ft worth. However, I have never toured and researched Dallas but was curious just the same.
3rd (Raliegh, NC) ....flew there to look at homes and the infrastructure of the city and its people. WOw....all I can say is....Raliegh looks like a great place to live and a lot of potential for family and things to do....single or married.
My question for you........
Not sure which to choose.....they all seem to have the elements of what I'm looking for....but you know how it is when you visit a place Vs. Living there.
I just like to hear what you all have to think because I feel you all can total relate to my situation....or some of you at least
Thanks for your time
RE: Dallas Vs Atlanta
I think you'll find the best weather in the Raleigh/Durham area. My good friend has moved recently to Chapel Hill and is in love with the place. Dallas gets much to hot as does Atlanta and I think the standard of living and way of life is a lot easier and healthier in NC. Just my opinion... good luck!!
RE: Dallas Vs Atlanta
I have lived in the Atlanta area and hated it. THe traffic is worse than L.A. Lots of crime too. I loved the Chapel Hill area near Raliegh. We would live there if it was near our relatives. A great, clean college town with lots of trees and friendly people. DAllas is real hot in the summer for 4 to 5 months straight.