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Favorite thing: It would appear that member "Balisunshine" has copied and pasted a lot of info from a Bumrungrad hospital brochure. I hope he got paid well for his trouble.
If you want to read something a bit closer to the truth, Google "joshua goldberg bumrungrad".
Fondest memory: My fondest memory is not ever having to go to Bumrungrad hospital.
Continuation of Part 2: Getting an operation in BK
Favorite thing: Flying back to Bali
Once again, we booked our return tickets via Air Asia.
This time, the tickets had gone up slightly in price.
We called a couple of days before to reserve our wheel chair,
and was suggested that we get there earlier (3 am)
so to avoid any lines at the counter and be attended to immediately.
When we arrived at 4 am,
none of the counter were open,
and we were told that
we would need to wait till they were,
check-in and THEN
a wheel chair would be provided.
We did just that, and it took
about another 30 minutes
before the wheel chair arrived.
Once it did arrive,
we strolled through immigration
and to the departure gate.
This time the air-bridge directly
to the flight was available.
The same upon our arrival to Bali.
In Bali, we waited not only till
all the passengers got off the plane,
but about a total of 45 minutes,
before a pretty unstable and
uncomfortable wheel chair was available.
Bali isn’t very wheel chair friendly…period.
The good thing was,
by the time we arrived at the immigration line
and at the luggage carrousel,
nobody was left, except our luggage.
I was finally back home.
To continue, click on: The Medical Follow up in Bali
Continuation of: Part 2: Getting an operation in B
Favorite thing: For payment of the surgery,
it is requested approval from your insurance
if it is a way of payment, credit card
or a cash transfer to their account.
So a few days later,
I went into surgery for bone grafting,
plates and screws, to be installed into my tibia.
On that same day,
I would be checking in as
an in-house patient within the hospital.
Depending on your budget,
there are various selections for
In-house Patient Accommodations.
I won’t go into the
prior-operation sentiments and personal fears,
I was wheeled into my room,
high on Euphoria/Morphine
to relieve me of any pain.
It lasted for a couple of days.
Being in that total dependant physical state,
I sure did appreciate all the nurses right there if needed.
Just at the click of the buzzered.
From bathing, to feeding, to medications
to all the healing and assistance, it was all provided.
5-stars for service!
On the third day,
the physiotherapist already started treatment
with a special machine used for the knee.
The Bumrungrad Residence
I remained as an in-house patient for 1 week,
before we transferred to
The Bumrungrad Residence.
For post operations,
this may be the best place to stay,
since there is direct access from the Residence
to the Hospital without any need to go on the road.
Again, rooms are a bit drab,
but because of the convenience
of it being attached to the hospital,
made it worth it.
Here, we could open the window and had a terrace.
We were even able to get a high floored room,
with a nice evening skyline view.
Here we stayed another 10 days.
Fondest memory: Getting something to eat
Breakfast is not included at the Residence,
not any other meals.
Your room comes equipped
with a fridge and some basic utensils.
There is the food court
located at the mezzanine of the hospital
and some additional places to eat on the 10th floor
but food, again…is something
that is not of the healthiest kind.
In these food courts
there is an array of choices,
including a fresh juice bar.
But if you believe in healing through nutrition,
this does not take priority here.
Prices are higher than what you would find on the street,
but in my state…I wasn’t much in a mood for restaurant seeking.
The cost at Bumrungrad Hospital is
probably cheaper than what
one would find in the USA or even in Singapore.
But most probably more expensive to
some of the other hospitals in Thailand.
Prior to the operation,
you will pay consultation fees separately.
Then prior to the operation,
you will be given a global estimate
of the cost of your in-house patient stay.
You will be required to
have this available prior to your operation.
And money left over,
will be returned.
But then if you need any
follow up treatments or consultations,
this will be billed separately.
I chose to come to Bumrungrad
since I was already familiar with the hospital,
and I felt safe with being operated here.
When it comes to medications, any special equipment,
like bandages, etc if you can,
have them bought outside of the hospital.
You may save up to 50%.
That was our case…when possible.
After close to three weeks,
I was given permission to fly back to Bali,
along with recommendations on
what to do to continue healing
and a complete CD-Rom
with all that was done on me.
Chapter 2: Getting an operation in Bangkok
Favorite thing: Note This is a continuation of Part 1: Braking a leg in Bali
Flying Air Asia
So, after reading all the wonderful statements
written by a passenger in the in-flight Air Asia magazine,
I felt relieved that no hardships
were to be expected along the way!
As soon as we pulled into the airport,
I realized that what would be provided
as a way of decent from the plane,
with the portable stairs and
a long flight of very narrow steps down
instead of the airports air-bridge.
Mind you…I had a cast all the way from my thigh
all the way down to my toes….and
I wasn’t seeing a wheel chair
at the bottom of the stairs.
We patiently waited for
all the other passengers to disembark
then someone from the crew
offered to assist me and
one other handicapped passenger down the plane.
I admit I was a bit nervous going down
all those flights of stairs with the help
of someone I didn’t even know if I could trust.
When we finally arrived at the bottom of the stairs,
a van met us and from there on,
a wheel chair was waiting for us,
and then we were strolled through
immigration and baggage claim.
The cost for the wheelchair,
airport assistance 140 Bahts
and totally worth it!
At the Airport
From there we were wheeled to
the Bumrungrad Hospital’s Hospitality Counter,
located at the Arrival Hall C,
opposite Exit Door number 10 at International Arrivals,
where we were welcomed and served some water.
(Bumrungrad Hospital Airport Representative
are provided a full list of arrival dates and
times and will help patients out when notified.)
Patients need to present their names
and their hospital numbers.
Service available from
Monday – Sunday from 0700 – 2300
Tel: 02-1346598 Fax: 02-1346599
The Hospital offers this hospitality desk as
your assistance to transportation that will
take you either to the hospital,
The Bumrungrad Suites or
The Bumrungrad Residence for 950 Bahts
you get a Mu 7 ( SUV Car for 1-3 Persons)
of which will be deducted upon
a payment made at the hospital.
The Bumrungrad Suites
We were able to book a room
for the first few days at the
The Bumrungrad Suites.
The Suites are located
within walking distance to the hospital.
They have wheel chairs and
assistance available at all times.
There is a very nice physiotherapy gym within the building,
the doors of the rooms are wide enough for a wheel chair,
plastic chairs to be used within the shower can be provided,
there is 24 room assistance available, etc.
The drawbacks are that this is a no frills hotel.
Rooms are clean but a bit of a drab.
The Suites are meant to assist patients and family of patients
with a place to stay within close proximity of the hospital.
Not much of a cable TV choice.
Internet service is not free.
You can not open the windows.
The breakfast was not very appetizing and processed.
Not to mention….not the healthiest choice.
The small distance from the suites to the hospital
are on sidewalks which are un-even and
not very easy to maneuver on with a wheel chair.
Sometimes it was opted to stroll me along the side of the street.
Fondest memory: At Bumrungrad Hospital
The next morning, appointments,
X-rays, CT scans, MRIs, blood tests etc.
The equipment used at the hospital
are of the latest models.
We immediately noticed this
when we saw the Digital X-ray and
compared to the one taken in Bali.
orthopedic doctor that
we consulted was Dr. Winyou Ratanachai
who repeated what was advised to us before
by the other doctors that we seeked
a second opinion from….surgery.
He was ready to operate
that same evening if we desired,
but we chose to allow a few days to pass
to prepare payment, lodging, etc and
follow up on the other tests and
consultations needed before surgery.
(…I also needed to catch my breath
and come to terms with what
was just about going to happen to me….)
Favorite thing: Whenever this questions comes up I always suggest getting the hepetitus shots. Michale and BKK Kid are correct in that you don't "need" to get anything and for the most part Bangkok and most parts of Thailand are safe. Getting the hepititus shots are just a safeguard, which you can get in any city or country in the world.
Should you decide to get them it does take several months to get the series, I think 6-8 months.
Good luck and have FUN!
Vaccinations for Thailand
Favorite thing: I agree with UnaS. Equally important in my opinion are the Hepatitis shots, series of three over a 6 month? period. You can get Hepatitis anywhere in the world and they are easy to get and worth the time.
Typhoid and dengue shots are always good. But I also believe that it depends on "where" and "how" you are traveling throughout SEAsia. If you are going to stay in decent 4-5 star hotels and not venture off into the jungle/bush then I would not worry about it too much. If not then obviously your chances of getting something increases. Having said that I don't know of anyone that has gotten any of these recently traveling in Thailand. It is relatively safe and we travel to many remote places and dense bush areas of some of the national parks and other off road places. Never a problem, so far!
Good luck and HAVE FUN!
Favorite thing: After several years of
dealing with a skin disorder
with much frustration because,
of the topical creams prescribed to me
that contained cortisone and that
never gave me a positive results,
I decided to take it a step further;
‘to heal from the inside out.’
Since less than a year ago,
I decided to go see a nutritionist,
and change my lifestyle to a healthier one
and to use Good Foods as
a source of medicine.
This can be a major challenge for anyone,
and great discipline is required,
if you truly want to heal.
What amazed me the most was,
not only did I start healing my skin disorder,
but I started to glow, my energy level went up,
I lost a lot of weight including those
stubborn fat areas where most surgeons say
that the only way to get rid of
is through liposuction.
On my last visit to Bumrungrad Hospital,
I was extremely disillusioned with
the dermatologist that I went to see,
after he said to me that nutrition
had nothing to do with my skin disorder.
Well, these are the
typical kind of responses
that you will get from
most Western Doctors who
practice by the book,
written and approved by the FDA.
And then there are the Doctors that get
very expensive perks and even paid trips
from the pharmaceutical companies so
that they prescribe certain drugs to their patients.
In many cases,
Doctors don’t even have
a very good education about nutrition
or any kind of knowledge on
holistic healing to begin with.
Take a look at how your Doctor looks like.
Is he overweight?
Does he look tired?
Does he have bags under his eyes?
Any skin problems?
And I am not referring to
the younger ones freshly
graduated out of med school either,
but the older, more so-called experienced ones.
Fondest memory: So, it’s great to get your general check up
at a so-called approved hospital,
but consider balancing out
your medical visit by
attending a Holistic Medical Center
or at least visit a certified nutritionist.
You might discover some things
that finally make sense of
all those things that seem a bit obscure.
And the connection with
your own health and body
may be taken to a higher level.
Always make sure that
when dealing with Holistic Centers
that they are of a certain level of reputation.
I’ve seen a lot of quacks out there,
call themselves healers,
without knowing very much.
The best thing to do is,
take a good look at the person
in front of yourself,
notice if they look balanced
and healthy themselves
before allowing them
to touch and heal you.
I must say though,
that ever since
I have combined the
holistic approach with
the general western medicine,
it has been a life changing experience
for me personally.
It DOES take descipline.
And I have probably never felt better.
Because at the end, you are what you eat.
Let food be your medicine.
Holistic Medical Centre
253 Asoke Buildingg, 20 Fl.,
Sukhumvit 21 Road, Klongoey-Nua, Bangkok, Thailand 10110
Tel : 02 640 8090
Fax: 02 640 8070
Favorite thing: I have been there one time to have a Crown and some veneers and i was very pleased with the service. I have also brought my mother there, and she was also happy with the service. Would recommend them to anyone.
Favorite thing: You give very limited information. What are you seeing a Dr. for? what are you iterested in? Are you looking only for tarditional Thai medicines? and why?
Thailand has some very good clinics and doctors that are very up to date. If you are not looking for this then maybe I'd suggest looking closer to Chinatown at some of the traditional Chinese medicines and herbs, remedies. Not knowing any other info your answers are going to be pretty limited.
Favorite thing: Here’s a general listing
of hospitals and clinics located in Bangkok,
if you do decide to make a
medical trip out of your visit.
Bumrungrad International Hospital
33 Sukhumvit Soi 3
BTS Ploenchit or Nana
Note: The first internationally
accredited hospital in Thailand.
Luxurious lobbies, excellent facilities.
9/1 Convent Road
MRT Silom, BTS Sasa Daeng
Bangkok Christian Hospital
124 Silom Road
MRT Silom, BTS Sala Daeng
Bengkok Christian Hospital
Note A range of check up packages prices
30-40% less than its major competitors.
A good value if you can do without the fancy lobbies.
Saint Louis Hospital
215 South Sathorn Road
Tel. 02-210-9999 / 02-675-5000
Saint Louis Hospital
Note: A non-profit Catholic Hospital
established in 1898. Also reasonably priced.
133 Sukhumvit 49
BTS Thing Lo
Note: Nestled in a residential area off Sukhumvit Road,
it is a local hospital catering to well-to-do locals
and expats residing in the area.
Bangkok Hospital Group
Bangkok Hospital Group
Note Several hospitals conveniently located
in major tourist areas including Pattaya, Phuket and Koh Samui.
Tria Integrated Wellness
998 Rimkholongsamen Road (Rama 9)
Bangkapi, Huay Kwang, Bangkok
Tel 02-2660-2660 / 02-2660-2602
Tria Integrated Wellness
Note: A natural medicine clinic,
assisting in age and weight management,
Detoxifications, mind and emotions.
No need to get bitten if you have a Mosquito Bat
Favorite thing: I would take them to the Big C department store on Rajdamri Rd and get them to buy a mosquito bat for about Bt199 (US$6). Once you have one of these rechargeable mosquito-killing devices you will never get bitten by an insect again, at least not in your hotel room which is the best place to keep the bat. The deluxe model (Bt199 as at April 2007) has a torch at one end and can be broken down into two pieces for ease of packing.
Fondest memory: Many of my fondest memories have been in hotel rooms where I have been able to kill off the mosquitoes with my mosquito bat, and then get a full night's bite-free sleep! You can't beat it.
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sex change vs. eye correction
Fondest memory: Though the area can be depressing if you spend more than a couple days there, the convenience is hard to resist for those just passing through. Much like New York City, it only takes a few blocks of walking to find yourself far removed from the tourist masses, and right in the middle of the mass of humanity that is a thriving Asian capital like Bangkok. Despite the constant deluge of travelers passing through, those serving them, particularly in the small food stalls that line the streets remain remarkably friendly. The woman who ran our hotel was particularly helpful even though she had clean and convenient rooms at some of the best prices we found. We kept waiting for a catch, maybe some kind of sales pitch for anything, but it never came. Just good advice whenever we asked for it.
The sights of the great city are many but I found my vision bleary after just one day, and decided to have it checked at the Rutnin Eye Hospital. Though Bangkok is notorious as a place to have a sex change operation, I didn’t realize the popularity of vision correction until investigating the possibilities of my own dilemma. It turns out Rutnin is one of the finest hospitals in all of Southeast Asia, with many people paying for their fare to the region on the saved money of procedures costing ten times back home. (concluded below in Fondest Memory)
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a scalpel slices across my eye
Fondest memory: As a scalpel sliced across the inside of my lower eyelid, I couldn’t help but think this was not how I envisioned my first day in Bangkok. It had been over ten years since setting foot in the renowned gateway city, that being my virgin trip to Southeast Asia, and accordingly I was excited not only to return to familiar sights but to discover some new ones. Of course, a trip to the hospital was not one of the discoveries I had planned.
Though Bangkok generally doesn’t elicit the dread of say New Delhi in India as a necessary evil to see a region, it rarely is mentioned as a favorite city by travelers that are nevertheless forced to use it as a hub in their Southeast Asian adventures. Personally, I find it a most agreeable place; it is full of not only Western amenities but for anyone prone to investigation, lots of Eastern charm as well. Even in the backpacker haven of Khao San Road, it is easy to find local delicacies at bargain prices, and locals still enjoying the fare right alongside you. (continued below in Fondest Memory)
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Health at a Bargain Rate
Favorite thing: When it comes to prices for medical services
in a non-socialized western country,
(such as the USA)
it is easy to go bankrupt
if an emergency occurs.
There is no HMO or any other insurance,
that will most probably cover the full cost.
Paying for all or even part
of your medical assistance
out of your own pocket,
can be exceedingly expensive.
After traveling for more than a year,
a need for a check up or aid
is more than likely to occur.
So I decided to visit
while I was in Bangkok
Thailand’s only Internationally Accredited Hospital,
the Bumrungrad Hospital..
After visiting some of the
medical venues in Bali,
this was soooo much more
than I had ever expected!
As part of the Joint Commission on Accreditation
of Healthcare Organizations
the hospital was founded in 1998
as part of this non-profit independent association.
Today the hospital boasts with at least
280,000 international patients coming from
countries such as:
the USA, South American, Europe, Asia,
the Middle East, Africa, Australia & Oceana.
I approached the sumptuous lobby,
with valet service outside
and the smell of Starbucks coffee filled the air.
The first thing I encountered
was the hospitality desk,
with a concierge service
that pointed out the direction
that I needed to go.
I passed the internet corner
and headed up the escalators
and read the directory that
listed the various centers available:
-Digestive Disease Center
-Cardiac Cath Lab
-Labor & Delivery Center
-Well Baby Clinic
-Early Intervention Center
-Plastic Surgery Center
-Skin Laser Center
-Aviation Medicine Center
Fondest memory: and with some extras thrown in,
- Full Service Fitness Center with
medically supervised programs in
Aerobics-Cardiovascular-Strength Training at Vital Life
-a book store
-a Japanese Restaurant
-the French bakery ‘Au Bon Pain’
-a beauty and massage parlor
-a travel and tour service
I continue towards my consultation,
was greeted by a friendly staff,
and within a short time
saw the physician that I came to see.
The physicians here are both
Thai and American Board certified.
Having a condition of which,
I was already familiar with,
I could detect that my doctor
was knowledgeable with my ailment.
Her English was good too.
This consultation cost me only about $18 US.
She prescribed me with medications
that cost only a fraction
of what they cost in the USA or in Europe.
And they were available
and provided to me upon my exiting.
So for check ups,
teeth cleaning, an alignment,
or whatever you body desires,
this is a place to visit when needed.
For a Virtual Hospital Tour visit:
For appointments by e-mail:
customer service 0-2667-1521
dental appointments 0-2667 2300
internal patient center 0-2667-1234
Cancer Center 66-0-2667-1020
33 Sukhumvit 3
Soi Nana Nua
Wattana, Bangkok 10110
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