Patpong & Prostitution, Bangkok
Yep, make sure a woman you're flirting with is a woman! Katoey is a thai word for a transexual or a man who dresses exactly like a woman, with makeup, long hair, high heels...everything. Somebody can tell the difference. But Im sure there are quite a few who cannot. Those newcomers in Thailand cannot really tell.
Anyway, let me give you something to notice.
- Adam's apple
- Broad shoulders
- No ass
- Taller than average girls
- Too feminine...the way (s)he walks and dresses.
- Too much makeup
PS Im not against katoey's or gays. I actually have a few friends like that.
PPS Be careful.
If you visit Patpong as a family, as we did, be aware of the lack of sensitivity most of the door and roaming touts will demonstrate to the tender years of your brood! My kids were 18, 16 and 13 - and some of the touts approached my husband, but backed away when they saw or he gestured to the kids - BUT most of them had no concern - my poor old son had been hearing jokes about ping pong bars - and was a bit confused initially - but no more! If you move around as a family - put dad up front to fend off the onslaught of well meaning roaming advertisers!
Funny experience we had when we were on our own was tout offering to pick up my husband after I went to sleep! I assured him I was a VERY light sleeper!
If you are a male walking the streets of Bangkok you will inevitably be approached by the persistant salesmen who tell you about "Happy Hour".
Its funny... they ALL have the SAME brochure that depicts the SAME 'women' that work at the SAME massage place. The best Thai word I learned was "MAI OW!"=NO"! when it came to these guys. A little Thai goes a long way, for they will leave you alone after you say that.
Whilst people makes jokes about Bangkok it can be a very dangerous place. Particularly the Nana area at night when there are many dangerous and infamous lady boys just looking to mug, rob, attack or drug foreign tourists. Remember these lady boys have no other source of income apart from crime. Their attacks can be random and they attack in groups down quiet streets in the early hours. The Norwich Union insurance company has described Bangkok as the most dangerous place on earth for tourists based on insurance claims. Don't drink too much and don't stay in the Nana area, anywhere else in Bangkok is safer. The Amari Boulevard hotel is dangerous because the guards do not stop lady boys entering the building to follow guests. You have been warned.
I have to share this story. This is really something serious and hopefully you can avoid this scenario.
As I have mentioned in my previous statements that reading travel blogs is one of the things i love to do during my free time. And I have read this same story I have experienced therefore I manage to escape and did the right move.
It was late evening in Patphong and me my boy friend wanted to spend the night in this known sex city. We go around the busy and full of neon lights streets and you can immediately notice sex workers and go go dancers outside the bars. Its one of the entertainment attractions in Bangkok making it so famous for being the Sex City. There are several fixers who will approach you and worst even drag you inside their bars. They are not an English country so they won't even bother to say Hi or Hello and would just drag you. All you need to say is "NO. THANK YOU" if you want to refuse!
A man approached us with his small placard saying "BEER for 100 Baht only". He did a lot of sales talk about the go go dancer and the "live show". We went with him since he told us there is no entrance fee and all we need to pay is 100 Baht per beer. Not bad at all!
So went with him, going way on the 1st floor then second floor... then 3rd floor... ITS DIRTY WAY UP... then 4th floor.
We enter and saw the real Bangkok at night! Now wonder its called Sex City. I can't discuss the full details of what I saw but its definitely DIFFERENT. Only in Bangok I suppose.
A group of 3 or 4 ladies approached us immediately and offered a beer. We asked for 2. Remember we are gay, so I am not interested to them at all. Hahahha!
After 5 mins I said I want to go out! I don't like it anymore. The 4 girls stand up and block my way out. I wonder why and look at them strangely. One girl said "SIT DOWN"! I said wow! All I need to do is get out because I do not like the place but here comes a stranger doesn't allow me to.
I sat down and feeling so strange. And that moment of time, I recall the blog I read. This must be the story I read. So all I wanna do now is get out.
The 4 girls blocking my way was now 6 girls! Hahaha this is funny but really scares me. I don't know whats happening so I said I want to go out and asked for the bill. One girl pointed the cashier area but still blocking the door way out with 5 others.
When I was about to pay the beer (2 bottles) supposedly for 200 Baht, the cashier handed me over the bill and I was shocked. Here's the bill.
Entrace Fee 1,500.00 Baht
Blah blah 500 (Blah blah blah fee... I don't remember the charges listed)
So I freak out and said "I thought its gonna be 100 baht per beer only and no entrance fees and other hidden charges". They don't speak english so the only thing she was trying to say is PAY ME PAY ME!
I don't wanna pay that much cause that's not what the fixer told us. We were arguing but its no where to go because they can't understand my english. She was trying to contact someone in her cellphone and group of go go dancers approached us held us so we can't escape.
That time, it feel so disgusted! My friend wanted to pay all but I stand strong and fight what is right. I told him to stay foot behind me. Do not be afraid and i'll argue more. The cashier told me that someone is coming up stairs, i think a police officer. That triggers me to decide, I held my friends left arm and shouted RUN! RUN! RUN! (hahahahahaha) that experience was totally frightening. We run down from 4th floor to the ground floor in just few seconds.. Taking 3 stairways steps at a time. At last we were out and far from the bar but we noticed several finger marks (some marks are really deep and reddish)
Again, this scenario was all in the blogs I read. But what I read was extremely frightening. The blogger said he waited for the police thinking he might get it fixed. However, It end up worst cause the police and 2 other men continuously hit him and drag him downstairs. Left him outside the bars bloody! He didn't complain and went home straight to his hotel with his wrecked shirt and bloody nose and extreme marks.
So you have to be careful in Patphong! Your dream vacation may end up a bad dream. SO DO NOT GO UPSTAIRS!
We went to Heavenly massage parlour for a massage. It was in Soi 7, Sukhamvit Road, where our hotel was located and seemed to be convenient to us. I was having a foot massage by one of the ladies. From the word go she was rude and unpleasant in stark contradiction to my past experiences in other massage centers all over Thailand. I asked her why she was not massaging properly and why was she being rude, to which she said that she was tired and that she hated Indians. After 10 minutes, I told her to stop the massage, I was supposed to pay 250 THB for a one hour massage, but even though I told her to stop after ten minutes I was asked to pay the whole amount. I said I was willing to pay the whole amount if someone would do the massage for me properly without being rude, for which I was yelled at for being an Indian and almost handed blows. I left the money and went away from a screaming lady.
If you read my pages, you will find very very few negative comments about places from me. This is one hellish place. I wish someone would take action against them.
I can't tell you how many times my buzz was ruined by seeing some old Westerner looking guy with a young local girl. Don't support the prostitution industry in Southeast Asia. It is disgraceful and disgusting and if you participate in this industry you should be ashamed of yourself.
If you are headed for the red light area, you need to be careful of your belongings and not get involved with the wrong crowd. If you get very drunk you are leaving yourself open to be ripped off or worse still robbed. Take care.
A ping pong side show may sound like an interesting feat. Unless you're looking for a sex show, don't fall for this. There are some very seedy places that have some crazy stuff going on. I recommend staying away from anything that remotely sounds like ping pong.
I had a number of great and cheap massages while I was in Bangkok. Sometimes a massage can be confused for something more. Again, this is something you should be aware of and understand what you're getting into. A Thai massage doesn't necessarily mean something more, but be cautious. Many establishments don't have a place for your wallet, keep track of your stuff!
Who would imagine the beautiful woman in this picture wasnt actually born as a woman. I would not know. Anyway, she is now a woman, looks really like a woman and pretty cute!#$%#@
Miss Tiffany is a contest like Miss Universe and Miss World, just the contestants are transexuals. This show was first originated in Pattaya, Thailand.
I haven't been yet but have stumbled upon this information. The Patong District is like the red light district filled with bars, girls, men who look like girls, nudity, sex offerings, etc. You get the idea. Your curiosity may get the better of you because people trying to coax you in will tell you it only costs 100 baht (US$3.00) to look and have a coke. Once you're inside, you are hounded by the "girls" to buy them drinks and it will be for all of them. I've read stories the the bar tab then becomes 2900-4100 baht (US$87-$124). I suppose you can try to leave without paying the bill but then what happens? You're in a different country and how will they react?
I think it's best to avoid such areas. I've read the shows are actually a bit bizarre. Topless and/or nude "girls" throwing ping pongs, blunt darts, bananas at the patrons. I'm not too interested.
The link below is a detailed story of someone who experienced this and comments left by others.
I read so many warning, i had to risk my life to see it by myself...
Although i didn't get to the night market at Patpong, i walked from my hotel all the way to Phrom Phong and just checked out the streets. It's much cleaner and safe than i thought. Tons of locals, some old fart and few tourists like me just looking around.
Some bars looked pretty decent (pub style) while other were so loud i felt sorry for those inside.
I guess I'll go shopping to Patpong next time ; )
Along Sukhumvit road in the area from Soi 5 to Soi 13 the tourist should be aware of the Ladyboys on the street these are men dressed as women and they will approach you and ask you for a date. During this encounter they will attempt to lift your wallet. They do look like women and the unsupecting tourist will lose his wallet. I typically take a hotel with an in room safe and only took with me what I was willing to lose or spend for the evening. PS I also took a color copy of the front page of my passport with me and left the passport locked up in the room.
Although this is a rule you should use everywhere, never forget that Bangkok has a big HIV problem, so take all the necessary precautions, no matter how many drinks you have had and how tempted you may be.
There are transvestites all over Thailand, especially in Bangkok. Lots of them are high on drugs, so please watch your wallets & "private areas." The guy that i was travelling with got violated from just saying hello to a tranny. My friend was just being nice and the transvestite also tried to pick-pocket my friend! BE WATCHFUL!