Hamilton is a great place, your pointing out flaws that every city in the world has. Hamilton Pop 530k . OFC there's gonna be bad thing's it's life *** happens deal with it. People talking about Ancaster with a pop of 30k lol. You think it's better there. Crime is every where. Scary dark allys stay out of. WELCOME TO THE REAL LIFE. Enjoy your stay :)
BTW the smell it's not that bad duh Hamilton Steel mill you think thing's justs pop out of thin air?
There are by far worse places than Hamilton in Canada :)
Also: onealyako your comment is just a big lie. If you can't drive in downtown because you believe the roads are small then you shouldn't be driving at all. Semi drive down those roads with no problems what so ever so you must be a ***ty driver not everybody can be a good driver. Let's not forget about your comment at the parking garage I pay for monthly pass I drive 2006 Monte carlo SS Black real shiny :) never had a problem. Stop trying to run over the people walking and maybe they wont key your ***. Last but not least "convenience store robbed" good one name a city that hasn't had that happen face you talk *** about Hamilton on the web because your a ***. You can't drive, and you might have pointed out a very common problem convenience store robbery.
Hamilton is great people are great yeah so some area are bad find me a city that isn't with at least more than 500,000 people :)
Don't visit if your close mind, set on the perfect city in the world. Drive right by and get the *** out :)
i was quite surprised by the limited outlooks of the comments posted. I am originally from Montreal, lived in Kensington market, Virginia, Florida and a few other spots. I moved to Hamilton approx 7 years ago- like any city there are pockets of bad, dangerous though not to the extent of being in lets say Syria which should also incorporate the difference of being out during the day, early evening as oppose to being out at 3am. This city has a vibrant arts community, amazing waterfalls and nature trails, excellent music, good restaurants (though limited in comparison to New York) homes are reasonably priced and i have found Hamiltonians extremely helpful and friendly-if i base any of my travels on comments from others as my carved in stone guide I would have not been to the many spectacular places in the world, and though Hamilton is small, is a steel town this place has much to offer and is worth the venture and exploration
One word you will see that keeps comming up here is "scary". This is a clear indication of very poor confidence in a social setting. It is very likely that these individuals had a resident of Hamilton attempt to interact with them (asking directions, saying "good morning", making eye contact ect... ( these are big no-no's in Toronto))
Smell? Go into the heart of the insustrial area and you MIGHT pick up the smell of fuel, steel, ect...(OBVIOUSLY) Anyone who says Hamilton smells is the number one indication that they really haven't been here lately.
Ugly? Not sure where this comes from. I see beautiful patios, amazing stonework from the 1800s, waterfalls, antique shops, hilarious individuals, character beyond description!
Barton is Bad? The main problem with Barton is to go into a shop you have to find parking. Sometimes it is more than a few steps from your car to the store. In this short path people are actually forced to walk a short distance (your poor legs!), and to add insult to injury somebody might even say "good day" or make eye contact!
I live in east (apparently scary, dirty, ugly ect) Hamilton and have never had a problem with anything or anyone. If you have bad social skills and are afraid of everything, please do not ruin our great city with your presence
Sure Hamilton has bad areas. The worst is James to Victoria and Burlington to King William streets. Nothing but drug dealers crackheads and thieves. Even people you think are decent are not. The old woman you thought was sweet and happy will bite your head off at the turn of a hat.
The guy you thought was your friend will rob you blind for cigarette money. That landlord you thought was decent turns out to be a slumlord Unless your quickly passing through stay the hell away from these areas. If you need to catch a bus you'd be better off walking 4 blocks out of your way to catch it at another stop outside the area. It's truly that bad. However the rest of the city is okay. The best area being the mountain of course preferably south of Mohawk or East of Upper Gage. Or west of Upper James. The central mountain and brow areas are okay but there is a bleed-off of scum from the lower city mostly around the access areas where there is a sidewalk or staircase coming up from the lower city. All that being said Hamilton does have some awesome parks and trails. Beautiful wooded areas and waterfalls. The waterfront trail at Bayfront Park is very nice and peaceful after dark. If you have good vision in the dark The rail trail that runs from the lower city at Wentworth street to the upper area at Limeridge road is a nice walk at night. Just be careful if you are coming off onto Wentworth street afterwords. All in all Hamilton is an awesome city and I wouldn't trade it for anywhere else. Oh one more thing BARRIE SUCKS!!
I can't believe some of the reviews that people are writing! "Smelly, disgusting, dirty"???
I actually grew up in the "rich" area of Hamilton (Ancaster) and moved to downtown Hamilton a few years ago, and I absolutely LOVE this city. There are so many great restaurants, bars, pubs, etc. And there is also a great art scene! And it is also called the "Waterfall capital of the world" because we have great waterfalls, and other parks, etc. to see.
As much as I love this city, I can't deny that there aren't "bad" areas (like any other metropolitan city). I walk pretty much everywhere and have never felt unsafe. One area I would never walk to at night would be Barton St. East area (near the Jail) this is probably the worst area in Hamilton. You might see a hooker or two if you take a drive down there at night.. But its like any other big city. I read some reviews saying that Gore park is a bad area, and to tell you the truth, you might see some interesting individuals in this area, but they are harmless. I have never felt threatened by and individual. There are a lot of poor people living in the city, as well as a lot of shelters, so it's just natural that you will see some of these people in some of the busier areas. But I would not stay away from this area for that reason, like I said, most people mind their own businesses and don't bother anyone. The downtown core has some great architecture to see as well.
Here is a link to photos of Hamilton, showing the beautiful and the ugly!
THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THIS COUNTRIES POOREST AND DIRTIEST CITY'S. THIS IS THE KENTUCKY OF CANADA. IF YOU DON'T LIKE RACIST AN IGNORANT DIRTY AND OR CRACKED OUT PEOPLE YOU PROBABLY WON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN MOST EVERY PART OF HAMILTON. EVEN THE NICE PARTS ARE PRETTY NASTY. PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS PLACE IS NOT AS SNOBBY AND UPPITY AS TORONTO BUT IF YOU COME HERE YOU MIGHT FIND THAT ITS EASIER TO IGNORE THE TYPICAL FAKE MINDED SNOB THEN IT IS TO IGNORE THE CRACK ZOMBIE TRIPPING OUT IN THE STREET OR ALL THE EMINEM WANNABEES WALKING AROUND WITH THERE PANTS HALF WAY DOWN. I GREW UP IN MONTREAL AN THOUGHT IT WAS BAD THERE WITH ALL THE LANGUE BULL *** BUT THIS PLACE IS A TRUE *** HOLE. TO SUM IT UP HAMILTON IS THE CLOSEST THING TO A DIRTY DEPRESSED AMERICAN CITY YOU'LL FIND IN CANADA.
There is no warning or Danger of a city that has had a booming industry back in the day and now trying to pick itself up from a post industrial era. Yes you do see seediness downtown but that's what make this city similar to larger urban cities. I lived here all my life. Moved when i was in my twenties lived in both Toronto and Vancouver so i know what a great city this is. People have been taking this step to clean and make downtown hamilton a better place. I have seen the downfall and now we are seeing the rise. There are beautiful areas that you cant find anywhere else in ontario beautiful parks and victorian style homes that you only see in movies. I live close to the Art District and yet again seeing it come back to life. It only takes positivity and passion to see change happen. So if you are traveling to hamilton, yes you will see poverty but with a mix of upbeat inspirational professional people making a difference. Change doesn't happen over night. come and see the flare hamilton has if you are a visonary
Hamilton is one of the mixed type of cities in Ontario. With nice areas (Ancaster, Dundas, Flamborough) but mostly with bad areas(mountain, central downtown, downtown area)
When you travel to Hamilton which i don't know why anyone would do, you should stay out of downtown its scary and ugly and if you have a nice car not necissarily a Cadillac, BMW but like a Dodge, you probably won't see it if you park it somewhere. My point is stay in Ancaster wealthiest in Hamilton but not the wealthiest i have seen.
Rich areas surrounding Hamilton:
Windsor (East Riverside)
West Bloomfield Hills Michigan
Bloomfield Hills Michigan
Shelby Township Michigan
In the rich cities listed you could do many things like explore the community, shopping, beautiful parks and lakes espesically in the Michigan cities listed since Michigan is the "Lake Capital of the World"
You can have fun walking on the Riverside in Windsor instead of visiting Hamilton. I live in Ancaster was born in East Riverside area have seen all the Michigan towns listed i know it all. Hamilton is very boring except for viewing the mountain of ugly downtown Hamilton a.k.a. Poopilton
Seriously? okay I completely agree with the person who said you had to have done something to provoke them to jump your ass!!I've lived in Hamilton all my life and to top it off all over it AND in the worst neighborhoods ON the worst streets (including Barton street TWICE-not the jail btw)Point blank there are certain aspects of every city in this world that isn't its highlight, and in Hamilton just like anywhere else you gotta remember the basic no brainers.
1.don't step on people's toes,cut into their profit,try and start a rival gang,rep a gang,talk names,threaten,rat,or date a chick who's gonna say you raped her or beat her.
2.DO NOT ignore people when they speak to you or you may get hit,which is understandable considering it is RUDE and people in Hamilton DO have manners if you use them and some just don't and well they're pricks but if you ignore someone you could be in Mary Poppins ville and get hit for disrespecting someone in that manner.
3.Don't act hard..simple..
4.Cops suck stay the hell away from them,learn where not to go and for the love of god LOOK to see the camera's that are surrounding you.
5.Use karma as your back bone to make it through whether or not just visiting or living here,I am nice ..sure people are dicks to me a lot of the time, but that doesn't stop me from being a nice person,they can be dicks all they want I however have manners,respect and well am just better than them CLEARLY.
6.UNLESS you've lived here for a considerable amount of time you DO NOT have the right to bash the city especially while you're in it, we may hate our city ( well bash on it ) but WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND STILL LOVE THE DAMN THING JUST LIKE YOU DO YOURS
7. Barton street
King street which INCLUDES Gore Park
There's a whack more but whatever ...
Avoid these streets if you don't wanna see LIFE that does exist outside your fantasy land this is reality people.. people lost their jobs and are homeless and hungry don't complain HELP THEM OUT!*Do onto others as you would upon yourself..Karma.
So basically in other words every city has it's areas to avoid,we all may be different in a lot of ways but we all share the same rules-Don't be disrespectful,rude,ignorant,racist,"gangster",a drug dealer cutting into turf.. now if you people have a problem with those rules it's amazing you're still alive to post because well you're a horrible human being.
Okay, so i have lived in Hamilton for about 5 years now and when i first arrived, I was living in the Hamilton area near Downtown. It was very ugly and i think the only thing Hamilton has is pollution and crappy Conservation parks depending where you are. I currently live in Ancaster which has more of a nicer scenery then Hamilton. I have to say when i go downtown i am afraid the people there look crazy(homeless, on drugs, mental illness) and they have ugly buildings with graffiti on like almost everyone.
The parking space downtown or almost everywhere is so bad! I was born in Windsor Ontario and have visited Detroit a lot of times and yes.. Detroit is way worse but the streets are very wide and you are actually able to drive unlike our downtown which if you are driving around in it make sure you have an ugly car. The people there aren't always mean but there are a lot of grumpy bastards. I think if you are visiting Hamilton the only thing you want to see is the mountain view. Everything else is plain boring. I am sad that my family had moved to Hamilton. It's boring. The parks and harbour have a horrible smell so "Mr. Firefighter" don't come saying that the people saying Hamilton is ugly are smoking crack only someone saying HAMILTON is beautiful is smoking crack(my opinion) I honestly wish i lived in Michigan not Detroit but areas like Shelby TWP, MI since lots of stores, trees, and WIDE streets and less problems.
Also if you visit downtown the parkings are very tiny like i mentioned above. If you want to visit the mall in downtown which is horrible since everything down there is so old and used! I want to let you tourists know that the parking garage is so scary so yes your car if it is a nice model and new looking then yeah it could be in danger. I know that there was a robbery in the downtown convenience store. Not surprised! So Hamilton is a waste of time!
HIGHLY NOT RECOMMENDED!
I've lived in hamilton my whole life, even though i'm only a teenager i've seen everything this city has to offer. It's not a bad city as long as you don't get involved with things you can't handle, growing up in some of the worst neighborhoods I can honestly say no one will bother you as long as you don't associate with them or look at them the wrong way. hamilton gets very muggy in the summer and pretty cold in the winter but the "in between" seasons are a gift from god:P
We took a day trip up to Toronto from Niagra Falls.
Came across a sexy brochure in the lobby of a Toronto hotel, and decided it would make a nice stop for dinner on the way back to Niagra Falls.
I pictured a quaint, sleepy, artsy nestled on a serene waterfront. I guess we took a wrong turn (away from the waterfront area) when we got into town and proceeded to "feel our way around" driving through the town looking for the waterfront area... the further we drove, the more nervous I became.
We're from New York City, so we've pretty much seen it all... This place was like a cross between Bed-Stuy circa 1975 (look it up) and deep-woods Tennessee Trailer Park / Meth Clinic. At one red light, there was a SQUEEGEE GUY! They don't even have them in the worst parts NY city anymore!
We found it hard to imagine that a quaint, sleepy, artsy community nestled on a serene waterfront could exist within a 100 miles of this depressed, truly frightening place, so we got the hell out of there as quickly as possible, driving another 45 mins. back to Niagra Falls for dinner.
The moral of this story: If you're driving to Hamilton, don't expect to just cruise around or play it by ear. You may be very disappointed at what you experience.
Since no one has posted in a while I thought I'd contribute some thoughts. I live downtown in a nice condo apartment. There are lots of less expensive apartments, however, and as you can imagine they attract all types. We are a couple blocks from Jackson Square Mall-Sheraton-Convention Centre-City Hall which is the heart of the city. Last weekend we walked down to the (year-round) farmers market to get some fresh fish and vegetables for a dinner party we had planned. It was great. You walk through a sea of people speaking many different languages but all pretty happy and helpful. On the fringes of the activity areas there are always beggars, and homeless people, but there are also buskers making music and I don't mind making a donation to them. In the past two weeks there have been three stabbings in the centre city after dark. A few days ago, the convenience store around the block from us was robbed and the owner beaten...unfortunately this is the 5th time in 3 years this has happened. The lady who ran the dry cleaner store chased a robber around the block, but now the store has closed and we have to walk 2 blocks farther for that service. Lots of people ride the bus and it is very convenient and inexpensive to the entire central city including McMaster University. There are quite a few erotic massage parlors in the central city, though they keep a low profile and no one seems to mind. The best thing about Hamilton is the greenspace...beautiful parks and nature areas, many, many waterfalls, and the waterfront. The passing traveler probably sees the steel mills and smoke on the northeast side and thinks the whole city is like that, but it is for the most part beautiful. You can easily see this from the rim of the "mountain" (the upper city) which offers a view all the way to Toronto across Lake Ontario. Like any city, the visitor needs to proceed with caution, but there are far more positives than negatives, especially in the downtown. Oh yes, we like to say you can walk to Toronto and Montreal from our house, since the train station is only a couple blocks away and convenient to everyone.
If your a tourist first coming into the city of Hamilton - role up your windows! The lake water smells when you arrive. I've lived in Hamilton all my life. When I go away and enter from the lake it stinks! But! do not be fooled the waterfronts ( confederation park, and Pier 4) does not have that smell. and they are must sees! When you first arrive you will most likely smell a fishy smell - but you get use to it quickly.
Avoid driving in the downtown area if you hate one way streets. Eventually they will be converted to two way streets I believe. And also there is not alot of parking. Where there is parking, is not a good idea to park there with a nice car. There are some stupid punks that hang around.
Also ignore anyone that yells or screams downtown at you. there are some crazy people down there, just like any other city though. Just remember they are probably on some kind of drug, homeless and losing their mind, or has a mental disability and is not recieving medical attention. There are alot of punks out at night downtown. Most won't harm you unless you do something that gets them mad and some you just have to look at the wrong way. Mind yourself and they will leave you too be. ( as for that guy that got jumped twice - he probably did something if he really did get jumped )
Barton street is known for its bad condition - road wise. There are pot holes in alot of places. Stick to King street and Main street. They may be One way streets but are connected by two way streets and have better shops along them and more appealing to the eye. The benefit of them being one way is that the traffic is faster ( more lanes )
Halt for buses. They WILL cut you off. They have the right away by law. Most drivers do not have the patience to wait for cars.
Also when your driving pay attention. There are alot of bad drivers in Hamilton. I've been hit by a car ( luckily he was just turning the corner so he wasn't going fast ). You'll find most drivers will cut you off or tailgate, and all that annoying stuff. Stay calm, we don't need more angry drivers on the road. Also there are kids that might run on the road. This is present in any city, but just seems more of a problem here ( even if its not a big problem watch out!)
On really hot days Hamilton is 'muggy'. You feel all sticky and just want to take twenty showers. So plan ahead to go to a swimming pool, or indoors.
Although the water at the beach front is clean. Over half of Hamiltonians agree that if you step in that water your going to come out with another body part! Its pretty to look at, maybe dip your feet in but not to swim in really. Theres fish, sharp rocks at the bottom, and your stuck with a bad smell for days and the water isn't treated ( like a pool, or the water in many of the conservation areas).
As for the train tracks the only time a tourist will have to pass them will be by gage park (which the trains are very short if they do run during the day - five minutes max and very rare) or going to the pier and then again not usually present during the day time. More in the evenings. there is a track that runs along the back of the Centre mall. But mainly on the other side is neighborhoods and no tourist attractions. I believe it runs the length of the city. When you come from the 'mountain' there is a track that runs along there somewhere. You may have to worry about that one. I waited about twenty minutes for a train there. But I'm pretty sure there was a problem because it stopped backed up went forward and backed up again. Or the operater couldn't work the controls!
Yes! there are too many seagulls at the water front and too many pigeons downtown. DO NOT feed them, please! Only feed the little tiny brown birds if you have the need.They are cute and leave you alone.
And again, just because one person says they hate tourist doesn't mean everyone here thinks that. Businesses love tourists! I like tourists too. Also with the diverse cultures ( and many people live or work in different cities - like over half the teachers at my high school did not live in hamilton area for example) alot of people will be interested in where your from. Only people that will hate you are again probably those crazy people on the streets talking to themselves ( which every city has ).
Where do you people come from? Are you all soft in the head? I have lived in Hamilton all my life. I work right downtown! I have been a fire fighter for 31 years and the only people smoking crack is you people who write this garbage!
The crime rate in Hamilton is way below Toronto. You have to step over the aggressive pan handlers in TO. As to 1 person saying “they” don’t like tourist is like saying no one drinks coke because a person in Hamilton say’s so.
So you got stop by a train. The 30 minutes was most likely only a few minutes. After 50 years in this city, I most likely could count on one hand the number of time I was stopped for any length of time.
When the air is bad in Hamilton it is bad everywhere in southern Ontario. The air quality in Burlington (Borington), Oakville, Mississauga, Toronto and into Oshawa and Durham is usually worse that Hamilton.
There is no one way street winder than 5 lanes. It is where the street meets the Hwy and traffic is either entering or exiting from both sides.
Paul get away from the computer and the virtual world. You where not attacked and robbed by gangs twice in one week! If you where, you are the most unlikely person in the world. You must have been the only one to have this happen to. Gangs don’t attack random people. They attack other gangs and people who *** them off. And as to your statement “Crime is very high in Hamilton”, do your research first and don’t make things up. The murder rate average in Hamilton is less than 10 people a year and that is a city with over 500,000 people. In 2006 it was only 7! It is way lower than Hog Town with murders every weekend. Toronto will set a new record this year for murders since they have already broken the old one. Even Regina and Winnipeg have almost 5 times the murder than Hamilton.
You guys where either making it up, sleeping or smoking crack.