Areas to Avoid, San Francisco

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krisfromthevalley 48 reviews

Please stay away from the Tenderloin area...which is in downtown around eddy, ellis between market and around larkin. But if you are there, you'll know it...lots of shady people hanging around the streets and there are tons of cheap Vietnamese restaurants, shops. Stick around if you want to see some drug dealers and prostitutes.

It's known to be a bad neighborhood in SF, but there are still some good clubs and bars that are located there, such as Suite181 and Edinburgh Castle. Just watch where you are.

Updated Dec 30, 2004

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Hunter's Point
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hudin 11 reviews

While there is probably no reason for a tourist to ever end up there, make sure you just don't. It is by far and away the worst area in San Francisco with the highest homicide rate in the area.
They're working on cleaning it up currently, but it has a lot of problems that are taking a long time to deal with.
Luckily it's very far south of the City and you shouldn't ever find yourself there, but if you do, immediately take the Muni Rail out of there, or find a taxi, or something. You put yourself in jeopardy if you don't.

Written Oct 31, 2004

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Tenderloin. Not for the tourist
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While this area is very, very close to Union Square, Nob Hill, and Market Street, it is not somewhere to go. Any good map should have it listed, but it generally is bracketed by Van Ness, Market, O'Farell, and Mason. This of course depends on who you ask.
It's a shady area with a lot of drug dealing, prostiution, and other things you don't want to get mixed up in.
It's barely OK during the day, although strongly recommended to stay away from even so.
At night, you just don't ever, under any conditions want to go there. You could get beat up, harrassed, or even shot if you're not careful.
Police do not go through the Loin as often as they should, so stay in the areas that border it and you'll be fine.

Written Oct 31, 2004

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Market Street Bike Ride
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The "freedom of movement" movement is alive and well in SF long after the "Summer of Love" in The Haight. Once a month, (at least) cyclists converge on Market street to "protest" the traffic, lack of bicycle lanes, lack of whatever...

It's usually quite peaceful, and if you live or work in the city you know when to avoid "down town" due to the traffic jams caused.

Written Sep 16, 2004

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Visitacion Valley - It's Frightening (Part IV)
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Well, it was too early for champagne. The bus made another turn and a sharply different picture stunned me. Coming from Russia and having seen some rough places out in the regions, I know what public housing looks like there and I hadn't seen anything like that in the US. Until the bus turned on that street, called Sunnydale (see the map in the picture.) This was a neighborhood of two-story, barrack-style public housing. It looked poor. It felt gloomy, even in the bright San Francisco sun. Or maybe the merry sunlight made it gloomier. There was a dilapidated building of a public aquatics center. No wall stood straight. Down the street, a group of black youths stood outside one of the barracks. They were loitering. They had nothing to do – and it was so obvious that they had little to lose. I don’t know about you, but I fear loitering people in bad neighborhoods. The thought that the bus might open its door in front of them and then they might get on filled me with terror. I could sense trouble right there in the air.

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There’s not much more to say. I’m writing this; therefore, I’m alive. I had a first-hand experience of how uncomfortable _non-belonging _ is. I’m grateful to Ms. Bus 9 Driver. A competent participant of this site commented: “I don't think it matters if you’re white on the bus, because as long as the people there don't know you, there will be trouble.” Now I fully appreciate how lucky I was that nothing happened on the 15.

By the way, I stayed at Days Inn at the corner of Geneva and Bayshore that night. That’s close to Sunnydale, as you can see from the map. I felt totally safe.

Any questions, please email me at gls@sonic.net.

Written Jul 2, 2004

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Visitacion Valley - It's Frightening (Part III)
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In a couple of stops she told me to get off and showed the stop (just across the street) where I was supposed to wait for the 15. The neighborhood was as rough as the gas station before. “Here’s your transfer!” – “I got one. Thank you so much!”

Several people were waiting at the bus stop. I glanced at them briefly. Golden rule #2: Don’t Stare. “Forget whites, but these folks are multiracial – a mix of Asians, Africans, and possibly Hispanics – that’s good!” Even better, the #15 appeared almost right away. But I still was very nervous. And, you know, being nervous for a while doesn’t help your nerves. I was fumbling through my backpack for the transfer I knew I had – and couldn’t find it. The bus opened the door and I still did not have the transfer. I just didn’t have the inner strength to say to the driver that I had the transfer somewhere, so could he wait a bit? It was terribly important to get on the bus. So I pulled a dollar out of my wallet and a quarter out of my pocket.

I took my seat and quickly found the transfer. There was something humiliating about the $1.25. It felt bad. I was glad it was all hidden inside me.

The next neighborhood was a poor Asian one, not particularly dangerous. I lifted my guards a bit. “She said it was just a 20-minute ride. It’ll be OK.” The bus made a couple of sharp turns, gradually descending the hill towards the gray compound of Cow Palace.

Written Jul 2, 2004

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Visitacion Valley - It's Frightening (Part II)
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I had known that I would probably pass through some rough ‘hoods on the way South out of the City. I got on the bus because thinking of my destination – the safe Westlake District in Daly City – was like seeing the light in the end of the tunnel. I was prepared to weather a rough ride as long as I knew I’d end up in a safe place. Now things turned awry. I was moving deeper into unwelcoming neighborhoods, and there was no way out. I felt that chilly feeling in my stomach.

The bus driver, a staunch black woman, advised me to change to bus 15 to get to the closest BART station (Balboa Park.) She said she’d let me know. She seemed to be friendly, but because of her unfamiliar accent, I wasn’t 100% sure I understood everything she said. But I had a solution now, and it was calming.

I returned to my seat next to the driver’s compartment and stared into the window. I was in control of my fear, following the golden rule No. 1: Don’t Let On. Then I thought of an alternative solution: why don’t I catch the same bus in the opposite direction? If I’m lucky, I’d be able to jump from bus, minimizing the wait on San Bruno Avenue. At the next stop I saw a 9 pulling up in the opposite direction. I went for my alternative, darting out the door, across the avenue… only to see the bus pulling off. I waved at the driver energetically, but he pretended not to see me, leaving me alone on the sidewalk.

It was terrible, as if the last straw was taken away from a drowning man. The street had open businesses – not the worst scenario – but it was seedy, even in that bright afternoon. A gas station, a freeway entrance… I knew very well that I didn’t belong. That was a very uncomfortable feeling. Stay or go towards the next bus??

All those thoughts flashed through my head in seconds, interrupted by a honk. Yes, my driver was calling me! I rushed back into my bus. “It’ll be faster on the 15,” she said. I nodded, thinking “Ma’am, yes ma’am! How grateful I am to you for saving me!”

Written Jul 2, 2004

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Visitacion Valley - It's Frightening (Part I)
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To say that this is a dangerous neighborhood is to say little. Do you know the Geneva Towers story? You can google for that. I invite you to read my tip and then decide for yourself whether you want to find yourself in the Visitacion Valley district of SF.

Here’s what an official SF County site says about the Valley:
“Visitacion Valley is in the basin located southeast of McLaren Park and reaching all the way out to the Bay. In 1777, a Franciscan priest first named the basin La Visitacion to commemorate the Virgin Mary’s visit to her cousin St. Elizabeth. Nowadays, this valley is a collection of residential neighborhoods lying just below the park and surrounding a small industrial district. It is bounded by City borders to the south and Highway 101 to the east.

How sadly ironic is the fact that God has now completely turned away from the place visited by the Virgin only two centuries ago. Here’s a story of my recent unintended bus ride through there. It has been has been an experience I just can't let go of.

I was up in SF on business, got off well before 5 PM and needed to go to Daly City BART to pick up my car. On Market, I saw a MUNI bus (#9) going to "San Bruno." Thinking it was the city of San Bruno, I jumped on.

Gradually, I found myself to be the only white guy on the bus. I sensed no particular danger, but decided that it would be wise to give up my seat in the back and move towards the front of the bus. And to ask the driver whether indeed she was going to the city of San Bruno and how much longer it was to BART.

As evil luck has it, it turned out that the bus was not going to the city of San Bruno. It was going to (and was already on) San Bruno Avenue right in Visitacion Valley.

Written Jul 2, 2004

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Tenderloin, and Market St.
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In my guide book these were noted as "bad areas" (particularly Market between 4th and 6th). There were definitely more homeless people in those areas, but that does not mean you need to avoid them completely. Our hotel (the Dakota) was located in the Tenderloin, and no one tried to harass or rob us. We did not witness any violence. There are quite a few great little restaurants in the area actually (such as A La Turka). That does not mean I (a girl) would want to walk through there by myself at night! I am just saying, during the day it was walkable.

Updated Jun 9, 2004

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BART at Night can be a little scary
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Try to stay away from the Oakland BART station at night.
It's very deserted, I mean no one around. I felt very vulnerable at 8:30 at night coming back from Berkley. On Sunday's there are no direct trains from Berkley to San Francisco, so you have to transfer at the Oakland or McCarthur station. the Oakland station did not feel safe at night. The area around the Powell BART Station also felt very precarious at best at nightime.

Written May 11, 2004

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