I have found much of the information on New Orleans incorrect, and some is downright insulting! Nightman_Cometh does not know what he is talking about. First, he says that violence is all these people know.(This and other disparaging comments about Southerners should be enough to discredit this cretin.) Then, he says he was approached by a homeless man and he drew a knife while his girlfriend sprayed the guy with mace. It sounds to me like he is the one who only knows violence!
Of course, there are dangerous neighborhoods in New Orleans, but anyone with any sense about travel or big American cities should be fine. I lived in New Orleans for 27 years and I go there 3-4 times a year, and I have never had a problem. I don't walk around the projects, I stay between Rampart and the river in the French Quarter. In addition to the French Quarter, I love Fauberg Marigny, the Warehouse District, uptown, lakeview and the Point, the City Park area, Carollton AV, Gentilly near the Race Track, and many other areas of town.
Please stay home, Nightman, or at least above the Mason Dixon line. We don't need you, your knife, or your other weapons in our cities.
Yes, New Orleans is dangerous as are most of the big and medium size cities in the south (Houston, Atlanta, Jacksonville, etc). The people in the South are different than the rest of the country. Violence is a first option to most of these people, because that is all they know. Its not their fault.
But be smart when going to New Orleans. If you dont have a concealed weapons permit then carry a knife or pepper spray. Last summer when I was in New Orleans, my girlfriend and I were approached by a scary homeless man that was getting in our face. As soon as my I pulled my knife and put it in the guys face, my girlfriend maced him and he took off. We were in the French Quarter, and there were absolutely no police around. New Orleans (and most cities in the south) are dangerous and the police would rather go home to their family at night then deal with any criminals, so its up to you to defend yourself.
Its 2011 and people no longer care about their fellow man. Always carry protection on you. If a group of thugs blocks the street, put your head down, slam on the pedal and run them over.
Its either you or them, take your pick.
It's an unfortunate situation where you can't walk around as a tourist everywhere in the city, but it's a fact of life in most cities in the US. New Orleans is no different and, in many ways, is worse.
One area that you may find information about avoiding is Mid-City, which runs along Canal Street and Tulane Avenue north from I-10. This area has changed dramatically in the past five years and, as it stands, it is generally safe to go to Mid-City along Canal Street and north to Esplanade, a credit to the streetcar line running from Canal up to Lakeview. There are actually quite a few restaurants, bars and cafes in a very pretty part of town, and following the streetcar north to its end puts you in front of some of the larger iconic cemeteries in the city. However, you should not venture too far south/west of Canal, as this is where it starts to get more dangerous for tourists. It's an area that was hard hit by the hurricanes and has not really recovered.
Just north of the French Quarter is another area to avoid, that many tourists get caught in trying to visit the cemeteries. As soon as you cross Rampart from both sides of Canal Street (the CBD and French Quarter), you enter a fairly dangerous neighborhood. The Basin Street Projects are relatively dangerous, but it gets worse as you cross I-10 and enter a depopulated region between Canal and Esplanade. Be careful of the area north of Rampart during the day, and absolutely do not go there at night. Do not ever venture north of I-10 and east Canal. If you need to go north, take the streetcar.
Marigny, the area just east of the French Quarter across Esplanade, is generally a safe area. Bywater, just to the east of there, is also generally safe and has seen quite a bit of gentrification in the past five years. However, both of these neighborhoods end at St. Claude Avenue, and that's where you should stop. North of there is not safe to walk around.
Don't be scared of exploring the neighborhoods of New Orleans, but also be aware how quickly these neighborhoods can become unsafe.
In New Orleans, bullets have names. Don't worry so much unless you make yourself widely available, like not being from here (or that area specifically) and walking alone through the projects at night. White? Black? It won't matter. Some people get killed for stupid things, like people from Texas, who feel they can wander around where ever, then they find they crossed some barricade and fell in the river and weren't murdered at all.
The French Quarter
is fine. Mostly transplants live there, from the ones in townhouses to the crust punks and hippies squatting in the streets. There's a high police presence, and SDT does a pretty decent job of cleaning up when the crowds die down. Of course, try to avoid going north of Rampart St into Treme
Treme
is Hell on Earth. I work on the edge of Treme by the Iberville Housing Development. It's OK during the day, in front of a busy building. They'll know if you're from out of town. We all day. Just they will prey upon you.
The Marigny & Bywater - Upper Ninth
are fine if you the Bohemian type. A lot of locals cross right over Esplanade Ave into the Marigny to go to Frenchmen St. Don't go north of St Claude Ave into St. Roch/Gentilly. Don't go on St Claude Ave. Don't cross over the industrial canal into the Lower Ninth.
CBD/Warehouse District/Garden District/Carrollton/Audobon Park/Broadmoor
Watch out for foot traffic. You're more likely to get raped or robbed than killed here. Try to park by Tulane kids from Connecticut/New York. They will have a nicer car than you, which will be broken into first.
Central City/Gerttown/Hollygrove.
Don't even go there during the day.
Gentilly
Is Ok by the park and lake.
Bayou St John
Go to Micks
Mid City
Includes Bayou St John, Treme, and a few others. Stretches through most of the middle of the city. Once you pass Jeff Davis, you'll be fine. Pretty much everything from N. Rampart to Jeff Davis is Hell on Earth.
Lakeview
Not touristy. Residential. Lakefront. Mostly professionals. Quiet & safe. Don't come here. I live here.
I lived in N.O. prior to katrina. I now live near phoenix. I have lived in several large cities. I started out homeless in N.O. and i lived on north roman, by the 8th ward. I am a scrawny, short, white boy and besides with the homeless in jackson square I spent much time in the 8th & 9th ward. these are "bad neiborhoods" as the wards tend to be. I have never really had any big problems. its all how you carry yourself. If you are not familiar with big cities ( or anywhere really ) its best not to travel alone or unprepaired! use your brains!
I travel around USA --California, Texas, Georgia, etc.-- and most often I stay at hostels, which i select based on reviews and Google mapping. There i mostly walk (some miles daily) to my conference places, usually located in fancy places downtown. Evenings i usually go out jogging in the neighborhood, even when it seems a tad risky - i rely on common sense and accept some risk. So far so good, except this evening in NO.
Despite the warnings re. the area between N. Rampart, S Clairbone, Canal and Esplanade, tonite i seemingly have crossed into a forbidden turf: the Marais Str. inside the Iberville area. Many in the know would say that i was looking for it, and indeed - I was assaulted by a gang (9-12) of black youngsters. Being too old for facing off a dozen guys half my age and 30-50% over my size, I relied on speed & endurance to escape. However, one of those who gave me chase was faster - so he caught up, pulled a gun and shot me once, then twice more. He got me in the neck and cheeckbone... with paintball... Then he gave up, being alone with me, relatively far from his gang.
Was this just a game? Nope. They have asked for my money, which I refused to provide - with a running NO. They also hit me in the back, nothing serious. Do I blame them for my Darwin Award class of stupidity? Nope. I have entered their quarters at night in an area where even the police (to which i reported the assault) doesn't go w/o serious reasons. Would a gun help? Not really against a dozen who stand to loose less than you do... plus it creates a violent, instead of safe, state of mind. I'd rather get robbed of a few tens $, or even beaten... than shoot a boy who doesn't know any better than the games, movies and the rap he was exposed to...
Does my scare make N.O. more dangerous, or less beautiful and friendly? No.
Inform yourself thru Google, ask the locals to color your maps --perhaps an updated Google Maps Good & Bad overlay would help all!-- use common sense, drive-only thru the questionable areas... but don't be too scared to walk this great city, and to experience its people, music and food. The rewards excel the risks. Enjoy. Mitch
My boyfriend and I were visiting a friend of his a couple years ago at a bar called Finn McCool's in New Orleans. While my boyfriend was born in Shreveport, we now live in Florida and neither of us were very familiar with New Orleans. His friend had told us to turn down Bank Street, but because a lot of the street signs were knocked down during Katrina we ended up make a wrong turn down Baudin Road. I have been to New York, Los Angeles, Chicago...but this was the scariest thing I have ever experienced at home or on vacation. A line of teenagers were blocking the road staring down our car, refusing to let us pass. We sat there frozen, unsure of what we should do. Confusion turned to panic when we saw one of the young men lift up his shirt to expose his pistol that was tucked into the waist of his pants. Another young man made a gesture to him which made the first guy let go of his gun. Slowly, they cleared the road for us to go by and we swore to never ever make that mistake again.
I don't know much about neighborhoods in the area, because I don't have much interest in going back anytime soon (though Finn's was a lovely time). But I do recommend that you avoid Baudin Road and all unfamiliar areas, especially at night when the separation between "ghetto" and "mansion" can easily become blurred. The only good thing that came out of it is that is shocked my boyfriend and I into discussing what we need to do if ever in that emergency situation again. For the record, on his insistence I take off running and don't look back, hoping that he catches up with me later.
Most people say just use common sense and you'll be fine, but unfortunately that's not always the case. I say, never leave the side of a local who is familiar enough with the area to guide you around.
If by chance you visit uptown new orleans keep an eye open if you ever run upon Claiborne ave. Martin Luther King should be avoided by all tourist as well as Josephine st. There is nothing for tourist to see except trouble. And also if you get a chance to go downtown avoid the 7th Ward area as well as the 5th and 6th ward areas streets like Broad, St Benard, and the Treme area can be a little wild at time. But have fun anyway if you visit.
I'm a foreigner who lives in the French Quarter. I've been here for almost a year and was overwhelmed by the amount of negative criticism about crime in New Orleans I received before I arrived. It's true. There is a considerable amount of crime in New Orleans per capita. It's not an understatement. But like most cities, you need to be careful. There are certain areas that you don't venture into, especially not at night. Ultimately, the Quarter is one of the safest places in the city. The reason being is that there is plenty of foot traffic, a mixture of locals and tourists and there's a high police presence. Tourism to New Orleans is extremely important for the economy so the City wants to ensure that they do as much as possible to protect the area. There is a housing project near the Quarter (Iberville), so the warnings in other posts on this site about not walking around Rampart St are important. But if you stay within the Quarter at night and stick to the popular streets you will have a good time. Make sure that you don't get too drunk as, like anywhere in the world, you are a walking target. Walk safe, be conscious of what's happening around you and you'll be fine. As I said, I've lived here for nearly a year and I haven't seen any crime. I've heard of stuff happening but I've been fortunate to not experience it.
I absolutely love this city and for any traveller visiting this amazing place you will not be disappointed.
As you walk in the French Quarter, it is almost inevitable that you will be approached by a black hustler, who will ask seemingly innocuous questions, all intended to trap you into a "hustle". Among the more common of these hustles is being asked/told, "Yo, mister...for five dollars, I'll tell you where you got your shoes". Of course, you think to yourself, Oh, God, do I have to put up with this nonsense, but in your naive way, you attempt to give the hustler an answer of some kind, if only to get rid of him. WRONG! You just fell into his trap! Whatever is your answer it is gonna be wrong, at least in the con of this hustler. Example: If you respond, "OK, where did I get my shoes", he will respond, "You gots them on your feet"! And now, he wants to be paid! And now, you’ve gotta deal with it.
They do not back off easy, and they can smell fear a mile away. My advice? Avoid contact with strangers. Instant friends in N'awlens is instant trouble. If you are a big guy, do not think that that will protect you. Only a BIG gun, (AND the willingness to use it), is gonna protect you. If you are a female, date a guy who has the sense to carry a BIG gun. Wear clothes that do not telegraph: "Hello. Please victimize me"! If you're gonna "slum" in the Quarter, wear clothes that are usually seen at Hells Angels’ gatherings. Leave your “L.L. Bean” in the North. Katrina has changed some things, but the statistics are starting to inch back up. The cops in this town are among the most corrupt in the nation, and are as useless as....well...you know. Still, if you have "street sense", you can have a wonderful time. If you do not have street sense, stay home. The white trash usually act in less violent/intimidating ways, but they are just as able to pick you clean and leave your crumpled body in a heap. Just because they look/dress like “hippies”, doesn’t mean they’re driven by the power of love.
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I went to NOLA this year and i am glad i did not read these comments. I went to most of the neighborhoods including 9th ward (during day), and stayed out very late in FQ every night. It's not like other cities, it's much better. Maybe I was lucky. Just like with other neighborhoods and cities, be smart and careful. I thought people in NOLA are some of the most polite and friendly people in the whole country. If you go with kids, stay in FQ and Garden District during day and it should be a wonderful experience.
We are planning a trip there soon and I am looking at places to see. I am from St. Louis MO (supposedly one of the most dangerous cities in the US) I have never felt threatened here so it makes me wonder how dangerous New Orleans really is. There are always good an bad neighborhoods but just because a neighborhood is "poor" does not mean it is dangerous. So Now I am really confused. We are only staying a few days. SO I guess I will hope for the best.
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