Saint Louis Warnings and Dangers

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Most Recent Warnings and Dangers in Saint Louis

  • Ignore generalizations, explore the city!

    by Gonsl Written Nov 25, 2012

    First, Chicago and other big cities are not part of the "Most dangerous city" ratings, so grain of salt for that one.
    Second, if you have trouble being around people that are different than you in terms of color, financial or social status, you would probably want to stay away from them. Blacks are not comfortable around bigoted angry whites and vice verse. People like that isolate themselves and can figure out how to maintain their own fascination with hatred without scaring the rest of the world into contributing to their ignorance.

    The "North Side" has some awesome architectural treasures mixed in with some of the historic racially litigated blight. The Ville, a neighborhood in the North Side, is primarily a black part of town has one of the lowest crime rates in the city. If you are looking for a great neighborhood to move into and rehab a home, find some great neighbors, look into Old North St Louis. ONSL.org Amazing things are happening up north now that we are able to see beyond skin color.

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  • Ignore generalizations, explore the city!

    by Gonsl Written Nov 25, 2012

    First, Chicago and other big cities are not part of the "Most dangerous city" ratings, so grain of salt for that one.
    Second, if you have trouble being around people that are different than you in terms of color, financial or social status, you would probably want to stay away from them. Blacks are not comfortable around bigoted angry whites and vice verse. People like that isolate themselves and can figure out how to maintain their own fascination with hatred without scaring the rest of the world into contributing to their ignorance.

    The "North Side" has some awesome architectural treasures mixed in with some of the historic racially litigated blight. The Ville, a neighborhood in the North Side, is primarily a black part of town has one of the lowest crime rates in the city. If you are looking for a great neighborhood to move into and rehab a home, find some great neighbors, look into Old North St Louis. ONSL.org Amazing things are happening up north now that we are able to see beyond skin color.

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  • don't go to the north side

    by fatheadlewis Written Sep 20, 2012

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    East st Louis is bad but not as bad as north st.Louis. I have lived here for 10 years and just about everyday there is a murder there. I would suggested not going there uless u know the area. St.Louis is ranked in the top 2 most dangerous places in the country for a reason downtown is fun just watch what u are doing.

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  • Not As Awful As Everyone May Think

    by Chubanana123 Written Dec 6, 2011

    If you stay in the right neighborhoods and areas, like in any city, chances are you will be perfectly fine.
    -Make sure you know where your going: Downtown is a tricky area with lots of one way streets and if you make a wrong turn there is a chance to wander into a bad neighborhood. Know in East St. Louis ecspecially because that's not necessarily a place to play around in.
    -Be Street Smart: Travel in groups or pairs, stay, walk, and park in well lit areas where theres lots of people. Don't leave valubles in sight in your car. Put them in you trunk and take them with you and your car probably won't be broken into.
    -Use Common sense: If theres alot of houses with windows broken out, roofs caved in (like areas downtown, jennings) Don't go there. It's not an adventure, those probably aren't the best neightborhoods. Stay away from east st. Louis, Jennings, abandoned buildings (downtown ecspecially) North St. Louis. If you do have to go then go and get out. Don't hang around.
    -THE FARTHER WEST YOU TRAVEL THE BETTER THE NEIGHBORHOODS

    St. Louis is a great place, but like any city there is crime. Ask people if you have doubt about where your going or if you wanna know any areas where you probably shouldn't go. Were friendly...we'll tell you.

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  • Used to live in South STL

    by rbjllj Written Aug 20, 2011

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    I was born and raised in St Louis. And moved to the county in the later yrs. I lived in Tower Grove area from 1973-1996.

    Main reason was the crime. Not that any place is 100% safe, of course not, however when I was robbed for the third time from 91-96 (two happened in the last yr) it was time to go.

    I can only go on my experience, and choose to stay away from the area due to those experiences.

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    Use your common sense.

    by edss Updated Apr 4, 2011

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    I love all of these dangers and warnings that are posted here. It seems that no part of the city is safe, you should run screaming every time you see a black man within a mile of you, and don't leave the hotel if you want to stay safe. Better yet, why don't I just look at pictures of St. Louis online while sitting at home?! Get real! St. Louis, like every city, has its share of crime. I ran around St. Louis for a week to see the sights and at no time did I feel unsafe. I was in the downtown area after dark and there were plenty of people there and lots of open restaurants. Sure I wouldn't leave valuables visible in the car and would you common sense, but don't let all these warnings stop you from enjoying a great city. A lot of these reviews do sound racist and perhaps some people are pushing their own agenda, but ignore the extreme views and focus on reality. Stay safe, see all you have time to see, try the ethnic restaurants which make St. Louis such a gastronomical joy, and have fun.

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  • Grain of Salt

    by nobody1 Updated Apr 4, 2011

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    To say 'The Hill" and "St. Louis Hills" are the only safe neighborhoods in the City of St. Louis is a huge stretch.

    I wouldn't venture north of Delmar to be sure, but most of the South Side is safe and full of great things to see.

    Have dinner at one of the ethnic restaurants on South Grand, visit Tower Grove Park and the Botanical Gardens. Have lunch in Dogtown south of Forest Park.

    The neighborhoods around Tower Grove Park are currently experiencing lots of rehab activity and revitalization, I should know, I've been looking for houses in the area and property values have gone up 50%, a sign of it's relative safety.

    Downtown has a crime rate on par with the Safe western suburbs.

    I'm not saying St. Louis doesn't have crime, but to say only 2 neighborhoods in an entire city are safe is untrue and you'll miss many great neighborhoods if you don't venture out of downtown and the Arch grounds.

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    Don't go up if.....

    by mafootje Updated Apr 4, 2011

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    You don't like small places or hate elevators...you'll have to go aboard the tram. These trams are made of eight capsules which can seat 5 persons tightly next to each other. Especially in the summer the 4 minutes to the top can be very hot.

    Each capsule is a 5 foot diameter barrel that is open on the front and closed on the back. These barrels can rotate about 155 degrees during the trip to the top the weight of the passengers helps to keep it in an upright position.

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    Laclede's Landing Streets Suck

    by BruceDunning Updated Aug 21, 2010

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    One of the better brick streets to drive

    The brick streets were all redone in the early 1980's. Now they are like a roller coaster ride with the severe ruts and depressions that a vehicle needs to traverse in driving down there. No money is available to fix the streets; so it gets worse.

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    Run down areas Due to Ethnic Problems

    by BruceDunning Updated Aug 21, 2010

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    Around the downtown area, renovation has been attempted more times than you can imagine, but it has not yet succeeded, and some revived areas are on the decline again-like Union Station after only 15 years appears it could close anytime, or St. Louis Center Mall on 6th St, or Laclede's Landing-to name a few.
    It is a downright shame this has happened and millions of dollars invested to try and turn around the deterioration of the city center. Union Station ended up over $250 million cost, St. Louis Center Mall now being torn down only lasted 15 years and died shortly after opening cost $250 million, and Lacledes Landing still barley hanging on cost about !150 million to revamp that devastated area. Now it could take that amount again to fix it up, or try to stop the erosion of tenants.
    There have been robberies, attacks and killings that does scare the suburbanites to come downtown, and not doubt not worth the risk.

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    Arch elevators are old but sturdy

    by BruceDunning Written Aug 21, 2010

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    If you are claustrophobic, or have arcophobia, you may want to stay on ground level. The elevator ride up is an "adventure" with 5 people to a cramped compartment with narrow seats. I take about 5-7 minutes to get to the top, and somewhat dark going up, and you see the bare walls and supports dragging the cars up the chain pulley. The top of the arch sways only 5-7 inches-they say-but I think I felt it sway about 2 feet more than once. Height at the viewing area is under 7 feet and width about 10 feet with the corridor being 69 feet. With many people up there, it gets crowded and hard to walk and see overview below

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    Do not go over the river unless you know where

    by BruceDunning Updated Aug 21, 2010

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    East St. Louis can be a dangerous place to end up if you are driving around to see the area. It is like a no mans land over there, and nothing so far has been able to turn it around to make it better. It has the biggest death rate in the US per capita. Then there is Suaget with its good old boys trying to make a living on strip clubs and various people sports. Dancing girls, and other risky ventures are available for those in the mind to find it.
    Immediate across the river now (Aug 2010)is a casino and green area that may have cleaned up some of the riff.

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    Traffic & Areas To Be Carful In

    by changeinlatitude Updated Jun 7, 2010

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    Okay, so we do have some major traffic issues. Your main highways to get around on are Hwy 270, 40, 44 & 70. If there is a game downtown or it is rush hour and you have to head that way, make sure you give yourself plenty of time. Hwy 40 & 44 if you are coming from the west can get pretty slow headed into to the city. Rush hours is usually in the morning from about 6:30 - 8:30 and in the afternoon form about 4:30 - 6:30. They should call it "Rush Hours".

    The next tip I have is, when you are downtown, around "The Hill", South City and North County, it is easy to get turned around. You may be in a very nice area in one minute and the wrong turn can get you into trouble. Again, ask for directions, use your map. St. Louis is a great city, but like most it has it's good areas and it's bad areas. Stay on the main streets and you should me just fine.

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    Make Sure You Have Good Directions

    by BigBlueOne Written May 9, 2010

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    Regardless of the area you're visiting in the St. Louis area (Metro East, The Hill, Downtown, Central West End) you are never more than a few wrong turns away from an area you wouldn't want to be alone in at night.

    No need for a lot of paranoia, but like with most large cities, a little never hurts anyone.

    Also, no way you shouldn't visit these places, but make sure you know your surroundings and your directions.

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    Local Cusine To Scare Your Cardiologist

    by AKtravelers Updated Sep 12, 2009

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    Janet braves a Slinger while the cook flirts

    If you're going to get your cholesterol tested, do it BEFORE you go to St. Louis! A trip through some of the local late night haunts will double your score in a weekend, for sure! Since Janet and I flew in from Hawaii, it was easy to enjoy St. Louis' great music scene, but hard to go to bed afterwards without putting something in our jet lagged tummies. Unfortunately, this meant heart-stopping menus from Imos Pizza, Steak and Shake or EAT-RITE diners. The scariest is EAT RITE (or EAT-FRITE as I call it) because of its "St. Louis Slinger", a local specialty that Janet swears by! I tasted it and it wasn't horrible, despite it's resemblance to tapeworm-infested pig diarrhea. I think it consisted of gravy, various types of sausage and low-grade meet, onions and lard. It was served by a bitter, weathered diner cook on a slightly hygenic counter at 3 a.m. as truckers wandered in to start their days. If you think that's bad, try Imo's pizza, which is mostly orange melted cheeze over crackers -- the crust is so thin that it doesn't even escape the edges of the sauce and breaks apart under the weight of just one topping -- no airy, bready, crunchy crusts at this place! The St. Louis natives are proud of their response to Chicago's deep dish pizza, I think I'll be heading to Uno's next time. I'm glad I tried Imo's and the slinger, but I don't think I'll be needing to make a return visit.
    P.S. We still have working cardiovascular systems despite all this and three nights of friends/family serving us ribs -- testimony to the amazing power of the human body to endure!

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  • Nov 8, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Central West Side has mostly non violent crime, though I would not purchase a expensive home, as those houses are very old and declining in value. Plus on streets of mansions there was a murder by a local serial killer of a mother and four year old. Always bad news when wealth butts up against poverty. But if you have to live there, central west end is least likely place to be murdered

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