Warning about these St Louis Warnings
I see alot of these warnings involve things that are not as true today as they were in the 1960's thru the 1980's. The people of Saint Louis have done and continue to do a fabulous job turning the city (downtown included) into a wonderful place to visit. A decade ago, downtown would be a ghost town after business hours, and now, even on days when there is not a sporting event, the downtown area is full of people walking around and seeing the sights. There are alot of narrow minded (possibly racist) people posting warnings on here about "avoid the malls" "lots of hoodlums... and blacks" and other bigot bullcrap that has no real merit on this site. people who's skin is not white are not all out to cause problems and commit crimes. Im white, and i know that there are people of all creeds out there that do some bad things, but use common sense in any city and you will most likely not be bothered.
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Local Cusine To Scare Your Cardiologist
If you're going to get your cholesterol tested, do it BEFORE you go to St. Louis! A trip through some of the local late night haunts will double your score in a weekend, for sure! Since Janet and I flew in from Hawaii, it was easy to enjoy St. Louis' great music scene, but hard to go to bed afterwards without putting something in our jet lagged tummies. Unfortunately, this meant heart-stopping menus from Imos Pizza, Steak and Shake or EAT-RITE diners. The scariest is EAT RITE (or EAT-FRITE as I call it) because of its "St. Louis Slinger", a local specialty that Janet swears by! I tasted it and it wasn't horrible, despite it's resemblance to tapeworm-infested pig diarrhea. I think it consisted of gravy, various types of sausage and low-grade meet, onions and lard. It was served by a bitter, weathered diner cook on a slightly hygenic counter at 3 a.m. as truckers wandered in to start their days. If you think that's bad, try Imo's pizza, which is mostly orange melted cheeze over crackers -- the crust is so thin that it doesn't even escape the edges of the sauce and breaks apart under the weight of just one topping -- no airy, bready, crunchy crusts at this place! The St. Louis natives are proud of their response to Chicago's deep dish pizza, I think I'll be heading to Uno's next time. I'm glad I tried Imo's and the slinger, but I don't think I'll be needing to make a return visit.
P.S. We still have working cardiovascular systems despite all this and three nights of friends/family serving us ribs -- testimony to the amazing power of the human body to endure!
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The East Side, The Ill Side, Just Plain Risky
Okay, I know we don't have much going on after 3am in STL, but just go home ok?
Many locals and visitors are lured to the East Side for many reasons. Look you've had enough to drink, and the sun will be up soon anyway. Call it quits. But if you must go to the East Side otherwise known as the Ill side BE WARNED. No it's not South Central, but there are frequently reported shootings, and other violent acts occuring more in that area than any other area surrounding our city.
Many are lured by the late night clubs, strip joints etc. Keep your wits about you. There are drugs, gangs, and drunk drivers as well as violent drunks who just need to go home. There have been rapes, murders, etc. So most of all women be warned. DO NOT WANDER ALONE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!! There are plenty of police so if you get in a situation where you have lost your group or need a ride let them know.
Sure you may go and have no experience with any of the above, but just be warned, violence is unpredictable. If you are visiting, just avoid this area especially if you are not with a local. And even if you are, just be alert.
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Don't go up if.....
You don't like small places or hate elevators...you'll have to go aboard the tram. These trams are made of eight capsules which can seat 5 persons tightly next to each other. Especially in the summer the 4 minutes to the top can be very hot.
Each capsule is a 5 foot diameter barrel that is open on the front and closed on the back. These barrels can rotate about 155 degrees during the trip to the top the weight of the passengers helps to keep it in an upright position.
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Avoid late night mardi gras in Soulard!
Soulard in a wonderful section of St Louis known for its jazz bars and electic restaurants. Every year they have HUGE St Pat's and Mardi Gras celebrations. We are happy party people, BUT by the end of Mardi Gras night, all there was left was underaged girls flashing their boobs and being instantly groped by 2 dozen flashing hands while everyone whooped and hollered and the cops stood by watching. I wondered if these cops would have like their daughters being groped. It was a little over the edge.
Yes, St. Louis has some VERY BAD areas
Stay clear of East St. Louis and most of the "Metro East", North St. Louis and its suburbs. Just watch the news each night in your hotel room and you will quickly learn how much crim St. Louis endures.
About 8,000+ cars are stolen each year. Over 4,000 are "drive arounds" by kids and then burned. Most are dumped in East St. Louis. The kids hit the party areas of Laclede Landings, Soulard, and Central West End.
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Fox Theater area in St. Louis, Missour is BAD NEWS
It's easy to be lulled into feeling safe around the Fox Theater and Grand Center in St. Louis. Crime statistics are kept very quiet, and the entertainment puts people in a happy mood and less apt to be cautious. But it IS dangerous - I was robbed at gunpoint after leaving the Fox, and although I am fine now, the experience was terrifying. FOX theater management denies that this happens, or says "We have no knowledge of it." What happened to me was not in any newspaper or publicized anyplace except here.
Please, please be careful! Stay in groups, don't linger after the shows, get in your car and get out of that neighborhood! I don't want to discourage people from attending shows at the Fox - the theater is magnificent and well worth a visit. Just remember where you are and use common sense. Be a little paranoid -- it could save you from an experience like mine.
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Make Sure You Have Good Directions
Regardless of the area you're visiting in the St. Louis area (Metro East, The Hill, Downtown, Central West End) you are never more than a few wrong turns away from an area you wouldn't want to be alone in at night.
No need for a lot of paranoia, but like with most large cities, a little never hurts anyone.
Also, no way you shouldn't visit these places, but make sure you know your surroundings and your directions.
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don't go to the north side
East st Louis is bad but not as bad as north st.Louis. I have lived here for 10 years and just about everyday there is a murder there. I would suggested not going there uless u know the area. St.Louis is ranked in the top 2 most dangerous places in the country for a reason downtown is fun just watch what u are doing.
IF YOU COME TO SAINT LOUIS AND WISH TO VISIT THE CASINO'S HERE, I WOULD SUGGEST GOING TO HARRAHS IN A SUBURB OF SAINT LOUIS. DO NOTTTTTTTTTT GO TO THE CASINO QUEEN IN EAST ST. LOUIS, IL. IT IS A COUPLE MINUTES FROM ST. LOUIS BUT VERY DANGEROUS. CRIME THERE IS VERY BAD. THEY PREY ON TOURIST IN THIS AREA.
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Used to live in South STL
I was born and raised in St Louis. And moved to the county in the later yrs. I lived in Tower Grove area from 1973-1996.
Main reason was the crime. Not that any place is 100% safe, of course not, however when I was robbed for the third time from 91-96 (two happened in the last yr) it was time to go.
I can only go on my experience, and choose to stay away from the area due to those experiences.
St. Louis IS a big city, and...
St. Louis IS a big city, and with it come the inherrent dangers of being in one. Just be especially careful in any area that doesn't seem right, watch your money, etc. You know the drill. Also, I would stay out of East St. Louis, in Illinois. It has a pretty bad reputation for crime.
Overblown and Inaccurate
I am a bartender who has worked in the Central West End for the last 8 years and currently live in Dogtown. Now, first of all, the crime statistics for St. Louis are skewed. Since the separation of the county and the city many years ago, the crimes committed per capita stat has been inaccurate. Since this stat only counts those living in within city limits (350,000 or so) and not the metropolitan area (2.5 million) it appears that there is much more crime taking place then there actually is.
Second, as long as you don't act a fool while at the strip joints on the east side you will be fine. These are the late night places to go (including a 24 hour bar). They all have very brightly lit parking lots and the worst I have encountered has been a drunk guy dinging my car trying to leave. Since I do not get out of work until past last call, I have OFTEN gone there for a few post work cocktails. It is also not actually east st. louis, but sauget where most of these clubs are at.
St. Louis is a big city, so take precautions..and your car (public transit mostly sucks). But check out the Delmar Loop, Central West End, Dogtown (especially for St. Pats), The Hill, South Grand/Tower Grove. These are all great places with great things to offer. Do not go to the Landing unless you like brain dead frat boys.
You better know where you are going
St. Louis has some good neighborhoods and then there are BAD neighborhoods. You can get in a LOT of trouble by going in the wrong direction.
The North Side is as bad as it gets in the USA and East St. Louis is famous for its deplorable crime. Just watch the news each night.
Our weather can be a...
Our weather can be a danger!--- As this picture shows. I'm holding one of the many pieces of hail that bombarded us just last Tues., April 10, 2001. We have some severe thunderstorms and tornados. This hail storm was associated with 4 tornadoes that hit the area that night. We live where the largest hail fell--some baseball size---causing EXTENSIVE damage to all our vehicles and some also to our home. So when you hear storm warnings here---which are frequent---heed them!
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