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Back in the mid 1980's through the early part of the 21st century the South side of Dallas was considered infiltrated with crime and violence, however, statistics now support that there was a greater increase of crime within the Northern part of Dallas, than was in Southern Dallas in 2008. Just a bit of facts to consider:
I recently read a reply sharing the recent killing of one of Dallas finest (Dallas Police Officer,) and the fact that he was killed in the southern city of Dallas...However, the writer neglected to mention that the same officer lived in the Southern sector himself. They also mentioned how sad it was that this was the first officer killed this year, again, they neglected to mention that today is only the 12th day of the year, and he was shot last week.
I have read a comment about one lady who had some people walking up behind her in a dark parking lot as she approached her car...however, she never said that this male, woman and child assaulted her, she said she "felt scared." She also mentioned that she pulled some type of a weapon from her sock, and they were five feet behind her, they saw the weapon (and per her insinuation,) they ran away. I don't know about anyone else but to assume that a man, woman "AND A CHILD" is approaching you to hurt you might be a little stretching it in my view. I have never had, nor carried a weapon and I personally would be more afraid of the lady that had the insinuated "Weapon" than of the man, woman and child walking.
I continue to read a number of write up's about "People who have HEARD," and except for the prior mentioned, I've not read any reply that say that any of the individuals have ever been to, visited, or lived in any of the southern areas, such as "Oak Cliff."
Allow me to share:
Fact: Desoto (a southern city) homes has 4-gated areas
Fact: The individuals in the southern sector are a lot more laid back than their counterparts
Fact: People tend to fear "The Unknown"
Fact: The D.A. for the City of Dallas lives two streets over from me, in the Southern sector
Fact: There are a great number of "Who's Who" in America that live in the southern sector
Fact: Other than the area called "Valley Ranch" that is in the "Western" area of Dallas in a
City called "Irving" or "Los Colinas" most of our football and basketball players for the
Dallas Cowboys live in the southern sector.
Fact: The officer previously mentioned that was recently shot and killed, lived in the southern
Sector, and his wife and family still do live in the area.
Fact: Ron Kirk (Senator that has just be assigned to a cabinet position by Pres. Obama) still
has his home and family here in the southern sector of Dallas, where he lived until last
week when he spoke to my husband in the midst of moving.
Fact: The homes in the southern sector of Dallas has more land than any of its surrounding
Dallas County cities
Fact: The area that Bush's have chosen to make their home is considered "Southern Dallas."
Fact: One of the most expensive homes in the entire Dallas County is lifted at 20M, and it is
located in "Southern Dallas."
Fact: "Dallas City" (Not county, because the county includes all the suburbs in southern
Dallas) nationally has some of the "WORST" schools
Fact: Since you don’t know me, or any of the other writers, so do the research for yourself,
and if at all possible, visit.
Fact: Peoples opinions can kill
Areas to avoid in Dallas
It's interesting that people are describing others as racist for pointing out the bad parts of town. No, we're not racist, the bad parts are the bad parts I don't care what race the people are that occupy them. I drive all over the Dallas area and I know where the bad areas are. Most people have pointed out Oak Cliff, South Dallas and North Dallas around Skillman and I-635. For the most part this is correct. Anywhere that you see a lot of working class apartments in big D are places to avoid. It's unfortunate and it wasn't always this way, but many of those are now section 8 properties. I wouldn't recommend walking around most parts of the city because you could be in a good area and run into the ghetto in a short time.
Oak Cliff has some really cool stuff, interesting historic architecture and some great restaurants. The area to go to is called the Bishop Arts District and the immediately surrounding area. That is a good area, but I would not walk around much outside of that area, especially alone. The rest of Oak Cliff is hit or miss. There are some good neighborhoods in the north around Stephens Park. Once you get deep in the neighborhoods there is nothing to see outside of the historic areas. East of I-35 should be avoided. That is also where the Dallas Zoo is located. If you're going to the zoo, go there by car and do not walk around the neighborhoods surrounding it.
Oak Lawn: This area is recently gentrified and is known for gay bars, shopping and restaurants. The area where the bars are is safe to walk around. Do not venture into the surrounding neighborhoods on foot, however. There is a reason that the high end houses have large fences and gates surrounding them. If you go, make sure to park in a well lit area close to where you are going to be. Like most of Dallas, you will see bums, prostitutes and druggies at some point. This area is known to have drugs, so keep that in mind if you plan to walk around.
Fair Park: The Fair Park complex itself is okay and there are some things to see year round. It is also kid friendly with the Science Place and an aquarium. You can park on the property, but sometimes it's pay only, which is worth every penny. Do not venture into the surrounding neighborhoods on foot. Directly across from Fair Park on the North side is a small section of bars and restaurants which is safe. This includes the area where New Amsterdam bar is but it is only about a one block area. I recommend going to this area for night life since it is really laid back. By car directly north of this area is Deep Ellum. This is a cool, historic area with some bohemian type bars and restaurants, tattoo parlors and the like. It was very scary for the last three years or so until last year. This area is now pretty safe, but I would only advise going by car, parking near where you're going to be and leaving by car. During the day it is okay to walk around the populated areas, but not by night since the ghettos are within walking distance. The area where Trees is located is okay to walk around at night, but only where you see other people around. Steer clear of alleyways and watch for people approaching you that you do not know.
From Fair Park directly South, East and West are areas to avoid. You can drive around during the day to look at architecture, but I would not walk. Dallas has beautiful art deco buildings, but unfortunately, most are in bad areas.
Lower Greenville Avenue/Lowest Greenville Avenue: Lower Greenville directly south of Mockingbird has some nice areas, cool houses and restaurants/bars. This is a short drive from Deep Ellum. It's okay to walk around during the day, but even though the houses are big and nice, I do not recommend it at night unless you know your way around. There have been a lot of robberies at gunpoint in recent years. Lowest Greenville is best to be avoided these days. It has been taken over by gang bangers. It used to be the place to be, but no more. During the day is fine (and there are some good restaurants), but not after dark. This includes all of the area directly surrounding Taco Cabana. Very close to the West of this is the Knox/Henderson area. Henderson Street turns into Knox when you cross I-75. Walking around near the bars/restaurants is fine during the day and walking around Knox Street is fine even at night. Henderson bars should be driven to and walking only around the populated areas at night. This is a cool area, but there are a lot of ghetto apartments on the south side.
There really isn't much reason for going to North Dallas except for the Galleria mall. If you go there, you should go by car and not walk around the surrounding area. Also note that Dart buses run through the Dallas area, so you can ride on those, but they do not run very late at night. If you get caught somewhere late, there are a lot of cab companies in Dallas.
Old East Dallas: The Lakewood area has some bohemian bars and restaurants and beautiful architecture. I would avoid walking the neighborhoods at night, but during the day it isn't that bad. The bottom line is not to do much walking around unless it's an area where you see a lot of other people. You can also find yourself in a bad neighborhood quickly at any point.
Other areas of interest: Downtown Grapevine and Southlake are safe at all hours and have good shopping and restaurants. Grapevine has some good architecture. These towns are near DFW airport. Plano and Mckinney to the North of Dallas are also safe. East Plano has some bad areas, but not terrible. Arlington (where Cowboy stadium, 6 Flags and Texas Rangers ballpark is located) is similar to Dallas. There are a lot of bad areas and it is best to get around by car. Waxahachie, which is 30 minutes South of Dallas has beautiful Victorian homes and an old downtown. It is safe to walk around as long as you avoid Martin Luther King Junior Blvd.
Some people are so ignorant
Honestly... some of the people writing about the areas to avoid are so ignorant and probably racist. I live in Northeast Dallas, around Skillman and 635, one of the areas that some people are saying to avoid, someone actually called it "slummy." I have never and will never live in a slum. I am a college graduate, married with 2 small children. I have no problems with where I live. The area I live has a lot of apartments and there are many bus stops on the street, so you will see people walking down the street all the time. This has absolutely nothing to do with crime. Actually, I live within Richardson School District, which is nationally recognized. Anywhere north of Dallas is just fine, it's just that some areas are more beautiful than others. I actually wanted to buy a house around here (Lake Highlands is a beautiful area), but when I started looking I found that the homes are way more expensive than many of the suburbs (that should tell you something... it's a desirable place to be). Don't let a few black faces scare you... the places you should really be careful of are the places way outside of Dallas where they will shoot you for stepping foot on their property. And as of Oak Cliff/South Dallas... I've heard bad things but I don't know anything about it and I've never been there. Anyway, your biggest worries while in Dallas should not be crime... it should be staying safe on the road... people don't know how to drive here.
texas theater oak cliff neighborhood dallas
I am a home owner in N. oak cliff. A huge advocate for the area and the businesses. I was violently attacked at the texas theater May 2012 in the theater. Was a supporter and frequently visited.. on this occasion watching the Avengers was pulled out of my seat to my knees and given an indian burn on my arms by a fellow patron who said I was talking.This was done with no warning. I am a 110lb woman with the attacker being a large male. No one mentioned they were disturbed and I am very conscientious of my actions and certainly didn't mean to be disruptive in any way if in fact I was disturbing someone. No on said anything before I was attacked. Reporting to the management I was told this was my problem and not their concern. I will certainly NEVER go back again and feel obligated to tell everyone of the potential danger of this place. I am a highly esteemed and good citizen of Dallas. I warn you to be extremely careful in venturing into this establishment as your safety is apparently, disrespected, disregarded, and it caters to a lower element of society.
Beware all suburban law enforcement
It's almost impossible to tell when you've left the cozy confines of Dallas' city limits and ventured into the netherworld of jar headed thugs scrambling around in high powered Tahoes or Chargers looking to keep their respective municipalities in the black by taking as many motorists to the cleaners as possible. Dallas proper is home to the friendliest most unobtrusive, non obnoxious police forces I've ever encountered anywhere. Dallas is an extremely safe city, our per capita murder rate last year was the lowest since 1952, it's like Andy Griffith reruns here as far as the danger's you're likely to encounter. I've lived in south Dallas (Oak Cliff) North Dallas (Preston rd and Frankford) far east Dallas (Buckner & Garland Rd) and currently just east of downtown in Lower Greenville/Lakewood/M streets. You may be annoyed at all the yuppies invading our once quiet neighborhood due to the resurgence of lower Greenville as a hot spot for shopping, dining, craft beer drinking and cocktailery. ( I almost left out Brunch ) but they're not scary usually, just annoying, thanks Trader Joe's for being the yuppie bat signal to draw them out of uptown. East Dallas, fair park, and the Bishop Arts district in north Oak Cliff are the coolest parts of Dallas by far, despite the dire warnings of the previous poster. I don't know when she last got out of her car in any of the areas she listed as dangerous, but having lived for years in each of them and having had many female friends do the same uneventfully I don't know where she gets her information. Dallas is not a city that will put you on edge in any way, the people are friendly, even the pretentious ones, and sports some of the most polite homeless folks and gang members anywhere. If you're from the west coast get ready for a severe culture shock: it's not crowded here. The most awful things you're likely to encounter are groups of drunken SMU students who have yet to learn the art of being drunk without yelling. Now it is a city of a couple million, so don't get blind drunk and walk 50 blocks naked back to your car alone if you're a female, or a male in the gayborhood around Oak Lawn Ave, but other than that the cabs wont rip you off, your waitress or bartender will be nice and genuinely interested in you having a good time, so enjoy.
The suburbs however are another animal altogether. The police forces in these cities take their speed limits as seriously as if their paychecks depended on it, because they do. Dallas doesn't write speeding tickets except for the Dallas County Constables who for some reason only work I30 and I35 near downtown. The suburbs are also where you may encounter a less sophisticated species of gang banger, with no sense of irony or humor or fear of consequences. Pay attention while on 635, if you see these words turn around immediately but do so within the posted speed limit: Garland, Mesquite, Balch Springs, Plano, Farmers Branch, Carrolton, Rowlett, Coppell, Irving, Duncanville, Lewisville, The Colony, Flowermound, Euless, Hurst, Bedford, Arlington. Now if you're going to a Rangers or Cowboys game or flying out of D/FW some of these are unavoidable, in which case drive straight to your destination using GPS and do not park anywhere except the most heavily policed official looking lot you can find. All off freeway travel in these areas will mean you are in the worst sort of ghetto, one with all the joys of any ghetto but with a police force to worry about as well. My advice? Sell your tickets to the game and kick back at a bar on lower greenville and watch it there and enjoy the new friends you'll make.
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Ive lived in Dallas my whole life, more than 30 years. There are areas I don't even want to drive around by myself like around metropolitan ave./ I30 munger area, park ln and Greenville, Bryan street, Ross ave, Gaston, Garland rd/E grand ave., Samual blvd, any part of Dallas near mesquite, and sorry to say but south dallas/Oak Cliff. I lived in an apt off of skillman and audelia...what a mistake! That was frightening. I had to phone 911 2 times while I lived there (6 months) The funny thing is most of these areas have something I love there and I will go in a group during the day. Dallas is huge, much of it is nice and some of it is even beautiful. Some of the most gorgeous neighborhoods are surrounded by the getto. Its strange. Im a small attractive woman and never have I been accosted or assaulted. Ive had plenty beggers, that's it. Some of these reviews make it seem so scary, its not! Its a normal place, I ve been around! Its just like any big city. There are areas to avoid for sure. North of downtown is best and even better is north east. But not south. By the bye, my grandfather was violently murdered in the 90's he lived in a crummy area near samual blvd. kind of near fair park. Its pretty bad over there too. Also had a friend raped around park ln east of Greenville ave. So, if youre moving here, look up the crime stats. Trulia has good one that helps when moving, it goes by zip. AND look at the place before you move. Go there and look at the cars, listen for loudness. Check out your neighbors. Go at night and day time. You can tell if its nice area or not, its not rocket science!
Don't live in an apartment in Dallas, just don't.
If I could give anyone moving to Dallas a tip, just don't live in an apartment. This is an extremely dangerous city and apartments are the most dangerous part, especially at night. Also don't joke yourself into thinking your in a good area, apartments are like little islands of hell and as soon as you step onto that property, the demographics drastically change. If you wan't the urban experience, move to New York, Dallas is just not the city for that, you will be around lots of crime and thug lowlifes, trust me on this move to the suburbs.
Dallas is generally a very safe city for visitors, however you should always take care at night, there are some very seedy areas to be avoided at night.
Texas has a concealed weapons policy, meaning that it is legal for individuals who have purchased permits, to carry concealed weapons.
As far as Dallas Is...
As far as Dallas Is concerned, stay out of South Dallas at night and be careful while visiting during the day. The West End is a normal tourist spot to visit downtown and is safe most all of the time due to police presence. The most you have to worry about in the West End is having your car broken into or stolen, which is OK since I assume youll have a rental. Just keep your car locked and valuables hidden. Deep Ellum is a different story. Park in a well lit lot no matter what it costs. Best to park in a busy area instead of the outskirts.
Traffic: Try not to travel during rush hour.
Be Careful in Oak Lawn!!!
Cedar Springs Road is full of Restaurants, Bars, Boutiques, and is nice for a few blocks of Cedar Springs where these are-BUT-DO NOT wander the side streets west of there. There are lots of robberies. Also, make sure to park your car in a lot that is patrolled, DO NOT park on the side streets, or you will more than likely have your car broken into. Also, Avoid the northern part of Cedar Springs Rd. Once you go past Douglas, you will be asking for problems. There are tons of apartment buildings, and there are lots, LOTS of break-ins to cars. If you walk that area, you will more than likely be harassed or worse.
The drug problem in that area is horrendous, Crack is big around there, and there is another drug called Ice that people will kill you to get money to buy. I unfortunately moved to this area, and have had 2 vehicles broken into, plus have had my bicycle stolen from a 2nd floor balcony. My apartment has a few drug dealers, and there is drug dealing and prostitution going on all night long. The traffic is non-stop, and there are lots of gunshots fired around here. The cops are slow to respond, if they bother to come at all. I am ready to move away from here it is so bad.
If you don't know your way...
If you don't know your way around the best advice I can give you is don't go south of Downtown, particularly if you are white or asian. Most of the urban area south,to the southeast and southwest of Downtown is low income and could be prone to racial incidents depending on the state of local politics. Conversly in particular times of racial unrest if you are African American you may want to be careful where you go in outlying areas. I am not at all proud of this, in fact it makes my stomach hurt, but better safe than sorry.
I know the crime rate is...
I know the crime rate is really bad. That's one thing I'll never forget. Turn on the news and ya never hear any good news, only murder, rape, robberies, etc. Make sure ya lock all your valuables in a safe place and don't leave your facilities unlocked at any time, including your car, or ya might not have it. Don't leave windows to your accomodations open during the summer months either. And watch out for the 'critters' (cockroaches that are huge and fly and hard as an armadillo shell on them that makes em hard to kill without pesticides or boric acid).
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Watch your front and back when leaving on south east side. They approached on front of sidewalk at parking lot face to face staring heavily. I had 2 elderly females, 1 middle age male and a middle age female with a child. They walked past, then turned around and followed. Lucky the car was close. I went to the passengers right side, bent down like to get something off the tire and at the same time reached in my sock. It saved our lives, 5 feet behind us. I looked up at of the perps when in the sock, huge eyes staring at me and they took off. Very scary. Beware and good luck.
Who is writing these warnings
I was in Dallas in Feb. 09. After reading of all the DANGERS in south Dallas, I had to check it out. I think these warnings are written by small town people who have never been to a big city that has actual ghettos. The areas that are so dangerous appear to be your average working class neighborhoods. There are more minorities in the southern sector of the city. I think they are associating skin color with crime and danger. I am a white geeky male and I had no problems in south Dallas. Oak Cliff was actually a pleasant surprise. The English tudor homes are beautiful, and the Bishops Arts District was very nice also.
If you guys (those who post the DANGERS of south Dallas) want to see real ghettos, try the Detroit area.
I never really saw anything that is bad as these guys posted. I was also suprised at how clean Dallas is. Have a lovely!
I read a something on here saying Oak Cliff was a nice surprise, and I need to point out something, the writter who said this was close and around Bishops arts district which alot of white or calcasion people go and they come from North Dallas. Outside of Bishops maybe 5 or 6 miles back into Oak Cliff is what some people call ghetto where I live, the drug dealing goes on and on even if you lock your car you can come back without rims. There is gang activity/violence in this area, and I have been robbed 4 times and have be assulted 3 by gangs.
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