Long Distance Bus
Most of the time when you think of the bus you think of the Greyhound, which is not especially roomy nor particularly comfortable.
Argentina, because of the lack of rail service, depends more than anything on long distance bus service, at least for those who cannot afford to fly. Instead of going back to Buenos Aires from Cordoba I chose to take the overnight bus to Salta to save myself some time and money. I took the bus from Cordoba's long distance bus terminal to Salta, about a 12 hour trip. Leaving in mid evening it got to Salta at a nice hour in the morning where you still had plenty of time to have a day full of activity.
Reading a few of the forums and things online can be rather interesting, to hear some people describe it you were almost led to believe that they served steak (they did not!).
There are various classes of service. Obviously, you can go in just a seat, which would be not much fun if you are on a long trip. The buses,and these can vary widely, are pretty roomy so you can always get up and stretch your feet without having to climb over someone like you do on an airplane. I took the coche-cama service, which has a seat that reclines back 180 degrees. There are some more luxurious options, but if it was as advertised I hoped it would be enough. There were movies on the bus and they did come by and offer some snacks for sale. Seats were wide and comfortable, usually two to a row. Since it was at night there would be no fighting for the window since there wasn't anything to see. They offered coffee (or water for mate) free but they did have booze for sale as i remember. Bathrooms were not bad.
The seat did recline nicely and the ride really was as hoped for. Perhaps the only thing to watch out for is if you are getting off at a stop along the way. The stops are quick and in the middle of the night, some of the places we stopped didn't look like anywhere i would want to be alone in the middle of the night with a bunch of baggage. The stops were very very short, you aren't even supposed to get off the bus at all unless you are leaving.
As hoped for, the ride was good, the bus was comfortable. I had fears that the movement and the sometimes less than ideal road conditions wouldn't allow me to sleep, that ended up not being the case at all. We were served dinner, which was like an airline meal and once that was over with they turned out the lights and had some movies playing on the screens (smallish ones thankfully). I didn't sleep very deeply but I got plenty of rest. The seat was comfortable enough that I arrived in Salta comfortable and well rested.Related to:
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Because of the very large distances involved, flying is often the only realistic option due to the time involved in taking the bus.
Aeroparque Jorge Newberry (AEP) is located in the Palermo neighborhood, not far from downtown Buenos Aires, so it isn't a very expensive cab ride. At the time of my last visit it was the center of domestic air travel in the country. Since 2010 it also has flights to neighboring countries (Brazil, Chile and Paraguay.)
Because of limited direct air connections between Argentine cities, you will find that you might have to back track, connecting in Buenos Aires to your next destination. Consult your travel agent This will add time and expense to your travel, so be careful in your planning.
If you are getting an early flight (especially on a Monday) make sure you come to the airport early because it will be mobbed with people going back to the provinces and you will surely be wondering how on earth you are going to make your plane.
Aerolineas Argentinas is the national carrier (owned by Iberia of Spain). Food service is minimal, so make sure to eat before you fly.
LAN Argentina, owned by LAN Chile, recently started flying domestic routes in Argentina. I have to say that their planes were new and clean. Service was very very good. Food service, though somewhat small, was pretty good.
Many/most of the discount airlines that have operated in recent years are just too unreliable, if they even remain in business. Use them at your own risk. I have seen several people being stuck because of this
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Travel Agent in Argentina- Monforte
Most of the time you can find a pretty good fare getting to Argentina, however because of a confusing two-tiered pricing system on domestic air, you can end up paying substantially more if you book independently.
I took the recommendation of my doctor friend and booked with a small agency in Buenos Aires. They arranged all my air travel inside the country, hotels and tours. I was very satisfied with their services. They were very flexible. My first trip to Argentina, for example, included several stops a bit different from the normal itinerary. Everything worked out great.
Trips in 2005 and 2006
no reciprocity fees flying Mendoza thru Santiago
No, flying in to Argentina through Mendoza you will not have to have paid the Argentina reciprocity fee (or the Chile fee).
If you just connect through Santiago Airport, book your bags through, and do not go through immigration (leave international transit area), you will not have to pay either the Chile reciprocity fee (only payable on entry through immigration on international flight arrival in Santiago) or the Argentina flight (only payable on international flight arrival at the two Buenos Aires airports). I have family do this recently.
The reason you got this email is because Argentina has changed only the METHOD of payment (online before arrival), NOT the places it is payable. Since September it has been optional, required only for AEP from Oct 31 on and EZE from Dec 28 on.
And, you since the fees are only for entry at certain points and not exit, you do not have to have paid to leave anywhere.
Carry On Luggage on domestic flights
The carry on limit for domestic flights is 5 kg. This is strictly enforced. Avoid the embarrassment of being found overweight and having to stuff a bunch of your things into your checked luggage in front of everyone else. Before getting in line you are usually able to weigh your bags.Related to:
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Chalten Travel Turismo
Chalten Travel provides transportation to various attractions in Patagonia. In January 2010, I travelled with them to El Chalten and in February 2011, I travelled with them when I travelled up the Ruta 40 from Calafate to Bariloche.
There is all year transportation (reduced service off season) from El Calafate to El Chalten. It cost me around roughly 130 ARP for a return.
I did the Ruta 40 in February 2011. Between November and April, you can travel up the Ruta 40 from either El Calafate or El Chalten to Perito Moreno Town on odd number days (ie. 7th February 2011) and from Perito Moreno Town to Bariloche on even number days (ie. 8th February 2011). Each leg of the journey takes an average on 12-14 hours a day and I strongly recommend stopping in Perito Moreno Town or Los Antiguos overnight to break up the journey. Please note the buses only offer a commun service which usually doesn't have a toilet and you need to rely on the very few stops made to use the bathroom.
You can read about my Ruta 40 journey on both my
Provencia del Santa Cruz and
Provencia del Chubut pages.
Costs (February 2011):
El Calafate to Perito Moreno - 302 ARP (8.00am Departure from El Calafate Bus Station)
(El Chalten to Perito Moreno - 245 ARP (9.00am Departure from El Chalten Bus Station)
Accommodation in Perito Moreno Town: Belgrano Hotel (1 Star) - 70 ARP (In Shared Room); 170 ARP (In Single Room (which I booked); 240 ARP (In Double Room); 270 ARP (In Triple Room). Breakfast is not included but can be purchased for 15 ARP in the hotel's restaurant.
Perito Moreno to Bariloche - 211 ARP (7.45 am Departure from Belgrano Hotel)
Chalten Travel can able to extend your stay in either Perito Moreno Town or Los Antiguos. There is also an opportunity to do the Cuevas de los Manos, near Perito Moreno Town.
Chalten Travel offers excursions to the glaciers and Chile's Torre del Paine as well.Related to:
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Over the mountains
Flying on DAP Airlines is like flying in your own private plane.
There were only 4 other passengers and the 2 pilots aboard when we left El Calafate.
It was a beautiful day and a smooth ride across the mountains to Chile.
I would highly recommend this airline to anyone unless you are afraid of riding in small planes.
There is a weight limit on luggage allowed so take that into consideration also.
Dap has offices in most southern towns of Argentina and ChileRelated to:
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Patagonia Totale tour operator in Trelew
If you like to go aroud Patagonia by ground you have only one choise: PATAGONIA TOTALE, of Trelew, is the sole tour operator organizing the Caretera Austral and Ruta 40 crossing. Write to Gianni: email@example.com
Buses to Argentina from Brasil
If you are in Brasil you can get a bus from Rio, Sao Paulo, Curitiba, Florianopolis or Porto Alegre to Buenos Aires or other cities but it´s better to stop on the way, because it´s a long run, but it's the cheapeast way to get there ( see bus company website below ).Related to:
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I used the company, Via Bariloche, to travel around on my last trip (February 2011) to Esquel and to Buenos Aires. When booking your ticket, you usually get your seat allocated.
It cost me 69 ARP (One way) from Bariloche to Esquel for when I visited Trevelin. The journey took 4.5 hours and stops at different places down the Ruta 40 including El Bolsen. This was a Semi-Cama seat service where you get more leg room in your seats compared to a commun service. You get a snack served and there is free coffee (although sweetened) and water available on board.
When I returned to Buenos Aires for the final leg of my trip, I booked a ticket for the Cama Ejectivo service where the seats lay out like a bed and 50% more space than a semi-cama seat. The service also included drinks and meals and in house entertainment. I paid 540 ARP (One way) from Bariloche to Buenos Aires and the journey took me approximately 20 hours!
I was satisfied with Via Bariloche and would use them again for future bus journeys when I return to Argentina.
My advice is to learn some basic Spanish before and when travelling on public services as a lot of the announcements and information updates are only in Spanish.
Only for the daring: make your own flight path!
theres a guy called jorge tobar. he's retired, but he flies trikes (like a sandbuggy with a wing).
you can plan with him your own voyage through the northern argentinian skies.
(if you would just like a normal tour, he can do that too)
the price is more or less at 350 pezo for the flight hour, but you can come to other arangements depending on what youre looking for.
you can reach him at his cell number: 0381 154 045 172
or at the email adress of firstname.lastname@example.org
remember: you're getting a tailored flight plan, so be sure to contact him in advance!Related to:
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Bus travel in Argentina is safe and comfortable, depending on the category of the bus. However, distances are huge and going to Puerto Madryn from Buenos Aires would take your daughter between 18-20 hours. We just visited Peninsula Valdés for the wildlife, most precisely for the whales and sea elephants, and we stayed in Puerto Pirámides, that we found more convenient for the tours. We flew to Trelew, which was something like 15o km from Puerto Pirámides, and the price at the time was quite competitive compared with the long bus ride.
Car rental in Calafate to tour down to Ushuaia
To wrap up my experience, I checked the local car rentals and they were ll quite costly. In the end I settled for AVIS, who offered the possibility to have the papers for Chile with a good rate (600 euro vs 900 for 11 days). However, the rate, was not with unlimited mileage so I had to pay 100 euros extra for this (but I had clocked almost 4000 km.... I think it is honest).
Great experience driving around, but distances are very big, and passing the borders is an experience we Europeans have forgotten about... Getting into Chile at Mont Aymond took more than 2.5 hours, and getting out in S.Sebastian on the way back more than 2 (while on the way in it was reasonably fast), so I missed the boat in Porvenir and had to drive up to the premiera angostura and back down to Punta Arenas.
But I'd rather drive through the places than fly over them, so it was good all in all, just a bit tiring.
Taxis are cheap.
There are literally dozens of taxis available in the city. We tried to take taxis from our hotel. These people are usually known to the hotel as safe and reliable. We did on occasion take a taxi from the street corner, but didn't make a habit of it. The drivers are very fast and don't pay a lot of attention to lines on the road. They seem to drive where they want. It paid to have nerves of steel in some instances. We had really nice drivers who wanted to speak English and were really proud of their city. On one occasion we had a great driver originally from Italy. He spent the entire morning with us. Here's to you Paulo.
It's a BIG country
Distances in Argentina are huge and, unless you have plenty of time, getting around in any other than flying is neither feasible or practical. If you're planning to see the great attractions of the country and you have only two or three weeks at your disposal, you really don't want to be spending hours, let alone days, on a bus - and don't even think about trains. Buenos Aires to El Calafate in the far south is a hop short of 3000 kilometres, the Iguazu Falls are 1500km north of the capital, and Mendoza's vineyards are 1200km west.
Aerolineas Argentinas is the national carrier and services most of the major cities around the country. If you are travelling independently, be aware that flights will be full of pre-booked tour groups, large and small, so make your bookings well in advance. The airline is notoriously unreliable about punctuality, but they will get you there, just be prepared to get to know the airports well and carry a good book.
Their policy of a two-tier fare system means non-Argentinians pay a premium on fares and - to add insult to injury - you'll pay more if you haven't flown into Argentina with AA as well. You really need to do your homework on these fares - or make sure your travel agent does, the difference can be hundreds of dollars. I don't know what fares we actually paid as our ticket was all-inclusive of flights (BA - El Calafate - Bariloche - Iguazu - BA - Mendoza), hotels and tours but the overall cost seemed pretty good value so they obviously did the right thing by us.
LAN have entered the domestic market in Argentina and the recent introduction of a oneworld alliiance South American airpass has made LAN flights around South America somewhat cheaper and covers all the cities we visited but you must purchase the pass BEFORE your departure for South America and you must fly to and from the continent with a oneworld carrier.
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