SUMAJ JALLPHA, DO NOT TAKE THIS TOURIST AGEN UYUNI
UYUNI-SUMAJ JALLPHA, DO NOT TAKE THIS TOURIST AGENCY IN UYUNI !!!!
First in english and then in spanish at the end.
I had a very bad experience few days ago when on feb 4th, 2004 I was in Uyuni to get a tour around the Salar, so they charge me 150 bolivianos myself x 1 day only, im from Peru, and I have no discussion about it, but then the service was bad, it wasn´t what they offer me. we should depart at 10:30am and we start 11:30am till before 4pm so we been back to the office before 5pm, I ask for to stay till sunset, at least 6pm coz it was my only day available but JANET NINA LOPEZ, told me is not possible coz all people in my car wanna get back earlier, so I accept, but then the girls on my team told me is not true, they was from argentina and also they dont wanna complain coz they been charged 95 bolvianos each, the 2 girls. What is this?? Also this woman, JANET told me that me and my other 2 friends from Australia (which she charge 750bs x 3 days each) to be on top of the 4x4 but the driver didn't let us go up together, he got very upset even when all cars getting ahead from us was with at least 5 people on top crossing the salar, he said stupid excuses, anyway, then when we was waiting for the bus, some other friends from Argentina recommend me QUECHUA and also ANDREA tours, coz they let them stay til 8PM!!!! to see the sunset when just a couple of them pay for one day only the tour, so then they even went way farther where the salar is deeper and you can see the double reflexion as a mirror, anyway , so disappointed!! coz the driver just keep us to the beginning of the salar only. Also the food was bad, and JANET told us in going to be like buffet with many choices in a hotel, and where it was??? in the back of the car, out side of a ruins of a hotel, and the food was just chicken and rice. They was rushing us, and everything looks very discoordinated. My friends from australia took the 3 days 2 nights and they said it was traumatic, they felt like animals.
I DEFINITELY DON´T RECOMMEND THIS PEOPLE , PLEASE WATCH OUT IF U SEEN THEM AT THE BUS STATION IN UYUNI!!!!
SUMAJ JALLPHA, UYUNI, PESIMA EXPERIENCIA !!!!!!! CUIDADO CON ESTA AGENCIA DE TURISMO!!!!!!!!!
La pase muy mal, se acercaron en la estacion del bus en UYUNI, me cobraron 150bs por un dia de 10:30-5pm y fue pesimo, empezamos a las 11:30, todo se veia muy desordenado, el personal paraba discutiendo. y duro hasta las 4pm y regresamos a la oficina antes de las 5 pm, dijeron q las otras personas de mi tour querian descanzar y llegar temprano pero mi grupo dijo q no era cierto. El conductor, nos trato mal, parecia amargado y aburrido, no nos dejo subirnos a la 4x4 para cruzar el salar cuando eso justo me prometieron la gente de la agencia, fue JANET NINA LOPEZ la q trato conmigo, y eso q varias camionetas tenian a gente arriba pasandola bien.
luego me dijeron q la comida seria buffet en un hotel y al final fue en la parte trasera del auto, parados y solo una opcion de comida afuera de las ruinas de un hotel, q broma es esa?? podrian decir la verdad o ser mas claros no???. EL CHOFER estaba apurandonos y de regreso con otros amigos argentinos nos recomendaron QUECHUA TORUS Y ANDREA TOURS x q ellos q tambien tomaron el mismo tour q yo por solo un dia la pasaron mejor porq se quedaron a ver el sunset hasta las 8PM!!! y les cobraron mas barato y hasta los llevaron hasta mas adentro del salar donde el suelo es mas grueso y se pueden ver los reflejos tan famosos, nosotros no vimos NADA de eso, y hasta los de mi tour q tambien eran argentinos me dijeron q a ellos les habian cobrado 95bs cada uno, eran 2 en total, q tanta diferencia??? CUIDADO CON LA AGENCIA SUMAJ JALLPHA DE UYUNI, SOLO QUIEREN TU DINERO SIN DARTE UN BUEN SERVICIO, NADA Q VER!!!! ALERTEN A LOS DEMAS!!!
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You will inevitably hear many horror stories of these trips to the Salt Flats, and I have to say that some of them are true, especially about the driving. Bolivians drive in a horrendous manner and we have seen with our own eyes accidents occurring with other groups (thankfully not ours - we had a wonderful guide/driver). Unfortunately no tour agency has constantly good reviews, so it is always the luck of the draw. Many people will also complain about the conditions for the trip - the best way to prepare for this is to expect nothing, no matter what the tour agent promises you!! Expect 4 days of extreme cold, no heating, barely any flushing toilets or working showers. Expect each car to host at least 6 people and you will need to share your room with them at least for 2 nights out of 3. Cars are problematic too but fortunately the drivers seem to be good mechanics. Anything that is positive is a bonus :) You are there for the sceneries and adventure and not for luxury, so setting your expectations right is the key to enjoy this. Also your best bet if you are taking this trip from San Pedro in Chile is to check out the Sernatur office in the village, as they keep a book of suggestions and complaints against companies and hostels. Good way to get up to date news. Lonely planets and general reviews we have seen in Sernatur suggest that Cordillera Traveller is the best tour operator, though their reputation is not spotless.
My conclusion from all of the above is to have proper expectations and go for it!!! It is a truly unmissable experience and I enjoyed every single second of it and would not hesitate to do it again.
Emigración / Migration
En el caso de que vayas a San Pedro de Atacama 8chile )ahorras tiempo si si arreglas los papeles de salida en la oficina de emigración que hay en Uyuni , allí te sellan el pasaporte
Te dan un permiso para salir en 48//2 horas que es más que suficiente
La oficina está en el centro
In case that you go to San Pedro de Atacama ( Chile ) you save time if you pass the Migration Bolivian exit papers in the office they have in Uyuni , there tey stamp your passport
They give you a 48/72 hours permit that is more than enough
The office is in the center
Pinchazos / Flats
Los pinchazos es un riesgo importante cuando vas por esas "no carreteras" .
Nosotros tuvimos en una mañana tres pinchazos , el primero lo reparó completamente el conductor y los otros consiguió que le dejaran ruedas de repuesto otro conductores que hacían la misma ruta
The flats is an important risk when you drive by this "no roads".
We had three flats in a morning , the first one it was completely repaired by the driver and the for the others he got that other drivers in the same route lend him spare wheels
It gets rough sometimes
The track of a tour to laguna verde or one of the others on the Bolivian altiplano gets pretty rough. In our 4x4 4 out of 6 travellers got sick at one point of the trip.
Might be a good idea to take some pils against nausea or travel sickness with you.
The tour is mostly in an altitude of about 4000 meters and at the geysers even exceeding 5000 meters above sea level. Therefore it is advisable to go for it only after due acclimatization to avoid "soroche", the high altitude sickness which can become a serious problem (there is no posibility for a fast descent on the whole tour). I stayed before the start for two days at San Pedro (about 2500 above sea level) and I came to this place by bus via the Cordillera over a 4300 m high pass so I did not meet any problems. And before sleeping for the first time higher than 4000 meters I did a longer walk somewhat higher up than our first overnight stop was.
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Uyuni fake train schudule...
when my friends and me wanted to come back to Oruro then La paz from Uyuni. We could not find train tickets. So we had to take a bus at night. And of course this bus was unconfortable and we couldnýt sleep at all.
The trains don?t come back to Oruro everyday. so if don?t want to come back like us, without sleeping and in a froozen bus. Make sure to take the train.
But when, i got to Uyuni by bus from Potosi it was so different. Nothing wrong with that, because, in spite of the road the landscapes are really wonderful!
Cuando mis amigos y yo quisimos regresar a Oruro luego La Paz desde Uyuni. No pudimos encontrar los pasajes en tren. Asi que irremediablemente tuvimos que coger el bus de noche. Que era inconfortable, frio y no pudimos dormir para nada.
Los trenes no salen de Uyuni a Oruro todos los dýas asi que si no quieren pasar por la mala experiencia de nosotros, asegurence de tener los boletos de tren.
Pero algo importante que decir, cuando fuý a Uyuni en Bus desde Potosi. no tuve ningun problema, a pesar del camino los paisajes lo compensan todo.
Careful : the mud ! Attention : ca avale !
Around the Laguna Colorada (a perfect reddish one !), there are some unguessable swamps. Itzhik and Stef Reporter tested them for you : they recommend to be careful !!
Autour de la laguna colorada (superbement rouge), il y a des marecages indevinables. Itzhik et Stef Reporter les ont testes pour vous : ils recommendent de faire attention !!
planning the right timing for excursions could be one of the wisest decisions you made in uyuni as all the agencies tend to follow the same timing. Sometimes being packed with all the other people in uyuni is unavoidable but sometimes you can esily organize a DIY trip out of the crowd
el cementerio de los trenes
everyone knows the best time to visit the cemetery is at sunset... going there with a taxi (4 bolivianos) an hour before sunset allow you at least 20 minutes alone and walking back to uyuni following the raiway provide another lonely visit time.
take in account that as soon the sun goes down it gets more and more freezing
on a pescado-lagunas trip crowd is almost unavoidable but you can make some effort to have your trip a bit late... (our flat tyre worked fine but I think there's some easiest trick). You'll have plenty of time to get in time after that.
when you notice your guide feel in a hurry get in a hurry you too. If you arrive too late in laguna colorada you could end up sleeping in the "depandance" wich is a few km far from the laguna and that means you'll have no chance to visit the laguna.
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watch the sun, bring lots of water
All the beautiful blue skies in these photos mean one other thing: the sun is intense so make sure to wear plenty of sun block and a hat. Also, one thing not included in your tour is water. They recommend a liter per person per day but really two is more realistic. The arid air will just zap the moisture right from your body.
save the flamingos
The number of flamingos is quickly dwindling so when they ask for the 30 bolivianos (about ten bucks) entrance fee to the Reserva Eduardo Avaroa, just hand it over in good faith that you are doing your part in saving this precious bird for future generations to enjoy. I know ten bucks goes a long way in Bolivia but thirty less beers isn't going to kill ya, is it?
Now this may sound a bit to obvious but do not try crossing the Salar De Uyuni without sunglasses, the sun at this altitude is very strong and reflects off of the salt
the salar is awfully white so a good pair of sunglasses are really suggested. Take in account that white reflect heath together with light : usually in the salar is a bit colder than in uyuni.
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